I'm still ROFL. And I didn't INSULT your age, I simply made an observation. I was 16 once, thought EXACTLY like you on things like this, so I was just observing.

And a job? Yes, I do have a job. I make (we'll just say good money) as an IT Professional... you?

You, sir, have just made my night. Seriously... good stuff.

Edit: If you REALLY want to make my night, why don't you try responding to zenfolder's critique of your post?

okay, you are using FOX news tactics. Okay I can roll.

1.Fire emblem isn't a major franchise (what? 2-3 game boy games and 1 console game?) So I never mentioned it with the milked games

2.I have owned a wii game since launch, I used violence as an example, because it is detailed, you don't usually see a really detailed mario jump attack.  (i guess you could also blame this on the wii's inadequacy in graphics (I think i spelled that wrong))

3. Mario kart.  How could you say that looks good?  It's colorful, to hide it's ugliness. *looks for pattern in all mario games*

4.Really? Maybe that's why people say the  subspace emissary mode sucks.

5.Yes I do believe so. An example: well... all of those franchises I mentioned (pokemon is too obvious, all that's different is the new pokemon, that get more ridiculous each installment)  I can only own so many games in each franchise, and play so many.  And, yes, I think they are lazily developed, or more likely, made "safe" taking no risks and making the franchise the same each time a game is released. (EX: Madden)(I have a clear point, but You gotta think about it)

6.And finally the last part:

Again, I DO OWN A WII, and I have probably owned mine longer than you.

#2 I never said it wouldn't be fun for old people, the wii ads make sure that message gets across

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Nintendo games are fun.. for the first 30 minutes. Then anyone who likes more than  Ooooooh HOOOOO itsa mario! will be watching TV. My point is, they're not deep, and it takes more to hold an adults attention. 

#3Oh and You insult me? Eyerytime you post on an xbox, or ps forum  you become the  Dr Jekyll  of VGChartz

Your oppinion is just as valid as his he believes they are kiddie games and that has been a strong view by other gamers on the more mature consoles.

I think Nintendo just started to allow mature titles. is that good or bad??? does having games like SMG and LZ MP3 rehashed over and over good or bad??? there is a market they sell and guys like You really like them.

does that mean other gamers who feel those games arent for them are stupid or lacking? because they like explosions?

I did like MP3 and Zelda for the Wii I couldnt play SMG and havent gotten into a mario game since NES. Kirby or any of those dont intrest me.

He probably should be lighter towards people who like those games but I 'ves seen poster here suggest anyone playing H3 should try playing a real game.

Last time I checked its was a real game maybe its not your choice of game but it is a real game none the less!

So 360 Ps3 and wii fans can all be Aholes maybe stratedgy is tired of dumb arguments and talk of lack of substance in games! But you guys arent checking that guy why???? because you agree with him???? Your good at criticizing but make your critiques equal and not just a flame on one position then your blast on being open minded might be more effective.

That would be nice to say, but when games such as ninjabread man are being released...... If it was just sony and microsoft then yes, it would be nice, but nintendo has no quality control and is polluting the industry.

@strategyking and your response to Zenfolder: THANK YOU!!! I am STILL ROFL! Ok, ok... just for fun.

1. He was making a point about your assertion that lack of story = not 'fresh'. You totally missed his point.

2. Owning 'a wii game since launch' did not help your credibility. Also, I didn't know that violence by definition was 'detailed'.

3. Maybe he could 'saw' (lol) that it looks good because he actually played it. And it's colorful and stylized because the developers wanted to do it that way. Maybe some of us like games for fun, not just graphics (you play games, not just look at them).

4. 'People say' is an irrefutable argument that has way too much logic in it for me, so I dare not respond.

5. I cannot wrap my brain around your brilliance.

6. Yes, owning a Wii is definitely more important than playing one or owning more than 3 games. And because you say 'anyone' who plays a mario game and likes depth will be watching TV 30 minutes later, it must be true. At 16, you have really discovered what holds and adult's attention. HA!

Wow, you have totally confirmed everything I said and thought about you. And you have officially made my night. You, sir, are brilliant.

/sarcasm

Ok, dude, this is getting absolutely rediculous. Why did you just bash the Wii when DogWeed was talking about consoles in general? Stop turning a thread about why some people hate the 360 into your own (totally unrelated) wii-bashing fest.

1. But still, I never said it was milked
2. you know what I mean, so stop being an obvious annoyance.
Well, when you see an arm get severed, and the bloods' physics, yes, I would call that "detailed"
3. Well, it's kind of hard to like a game that looks like a gamecube game that you payed 50$ for. (and also, it means they had LAZINESS) Do you honestly think they could've spent 2 more months on graphic improvments?
4. Fine then, again: I guess that's why every mario game is about mario saving (____) from (_____) by jumping on (_____) and moving through (____) levels.
5.Did you see how I said "made safe"
6."At 16, you have really discovered what holds and adult's attention. HA!"
Since you insult some little writing flaws: ha----ha.
I have not made your night, you will still argue.(If my assumptions of lonely adults are right)

Everyone, I apoligize for feeding the troll, that was not my intention. I hoped that he would get the hint and stop being rediculous, but apparently that is impossible.

Some people hate xbox because they hate MS, RROD, etc. Some are fanboys of other consoles. I like the 360 and would like to own one, but I don't even have a ton of time to play my Wii right now (kind of busy with my wife being pregnant, house, responsibility, etc.) But I do like to enjoy the occasional game of Halo with friends who have the 360.

We now return to our regularly scheduled discussion...

^^

Okay, first you insult me to death and now you play devil's advocate?

2.) Not everyone WANTs to see blood, in some games, it can ass to teh style, and in others it just distracts from it. If I'm immersing myself in a fantasy, then often times, I don't WANT realistic blood and guts or even a semi realistic art style. That just gets distracting. There has actually been an in depth look at how adding in too much detail actually DISTANCES the viewer/player from being able to immerse themselves in the game.

3.) Wow, did you develop a new graphics program that lets you just increase the graphics like you'd inflate a balloon? "Hey Shigeru, your left front Mario is looking a little flat, we'd better go fill him back up again!" If the graphics are good enough, we just take a couple months to pump up whatever we have. That's totally how it works!

4.) And any FPS is line your cursor up with the enemies head to kill them and once you get the shotgun never use any other weapon, any JRPG is wait for cutscene to finish, wait for battle, attack, heal, save, repeat. any racing game is drive around in rough circles for a couple laps and get in first.  If you're going to be general like that, pretty much EVERY game is just like every other one, unless you want to talk about Nintendo's casual titles like Nintendogs and WiiFit.