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Will the Switch surpass XBOX One?

Yes, in 2018. 14 11.11%
 
Yes, in 2019. 61 48.41%
 
Yes, in 2020. 38 30.16%
 
Not before next-gen conso... 3 2.38%
 
No, it will do well in 2018 and then drop. 2 1.59%
 
No, it will perform until 2019, then drop. 2 1.59%
 
No, it will never match 2017 in sales number. 6 4.76%
 
Total:126

With current sales it sells 1 million more each ten weeks so to bridge the gap it would need 200 weeks excludinf holidays



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Surprised at how Xbox is accepting its sales position I expected more of a fightback by now. I could see Xbox declining quite rapidly if they don't bring the price of the Xbox One X down in price soon and have the standard xbox one undercutting the ps4 price. They need to do something. I can see Switch surpassing Xbox in 2019 if Microsoft don't pull their finger out.



Seems to be catching up to Xbox One already.



bonzobanana said:
Surprised at how Xbox is accepting its sales position I expected more of a fightback by now.

Microsoft has fought their asses off all generation, unbundled Kinect, multiple price reductions, 2 revisions, released their biggest IP (Halo, Gears, Forza), has full AAA support, paid for exclusives/timed exclusives (Titanfall, Tomb Raider, PUBG), released a handful of new IP (Sunset Overdrive, Quantum Break, ReCore, Sea of Thieves). They just cant seem to get out of that ~8 million/year baseline.



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zorg1000 said:
bonzobanana said:
Surprised at how Xbox is accepting its sales position I expected more of a fightback by now.

Microsoft has fought their asses off all generation, unbundled Kinect, multiple price reductions, 2 revisions, released their biggest IP (Halo, Gears, Forza), has full AAA support, paid for exclusives/timed exclusives (Titanfall, Tomb Raider, PUBG), released a handful of new IP (Sunset Overdrive, Quantum Break, ReCore, Sea of Thieves). They just cant seem to get out of that ~8 million/year baseline.

Most of those are fighting for American/UK customers, who are notably disloyal. When they could be fighting more for European customers or in other areas like South America. Take Fifa away from Sony instead of the Madden deal or release more games to european taste.



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I'll make sure to bump this thread in a year or two. It won't just pass the XBO, it'll do so by a wide margin.



zorg1000 said:
bonzobanana said:
Surprised at how Xbox is accepting its sales position I expected more of a fightback by now.

Microsoft has fought their asses off all generation, unbundled Kinect, multiple price reductions, 2 revisions, released their biggest IP (Halo, Gears, Forza), has full AAA support, paid for exclusives/timed exclusives (Titanfall, Tomb Raider, PUBG), released a handful of new IP (Sunset Overdrive, Quantum Break, ReCore, Sea of Thieves). They just cant seem to get out of that ~8 million/year baseline.

It may not be a bad thing for XB actually. As long as the 'XB2' launch goes much smoother. While the 360 was a strong launch and a massive improvement in many ways, just focus on the fact that the 360 was unexpected and a true underdog. People love when an underdog rises up and goes above and beyond. If 'XB2' has next gen level hardware that matches the price, and that price is reasonable, then a worthy and more lengthy list of exclusives to go with that launch and the following years, could very well give 'XB2' the same boost that 360 had. Right now, while there is still room to go down since they aren't hurting that bad overall at this point, especially in comparison to the 360 sales, XB has plenty of room to move up and improve, which makes them potentially dangerous.

I see XB1 coasting for the rest of this gen for the most part, so it leads me to believe that we will see Switch surpassing it by the end of 2019, which may be short lived if we see a 2020 'XB2'.



EricHiggin said:
zorg1000 said:

Microsoft has fought their asses off all generation, unbundled Kinect, multiple price reductions, 2 revisions, released their biggest IP (Halo, Gears, Forza), has full AAA support, paid for exclusives/timed exclusives (Titanfall, Tomb Raider, PUBG), released a handful of new IP (Sunset Overdrive, Quantum Break, ReCore, Sea of Thieves). They just cant seem to get out of that ~8 million/year baseline.

It may not be a bad thing for XB actually. As long as the 'XB2' launch goes much smoother. While the 360 was a strong launch and a massive improvement in many ways, just focus on the fact that the 360 was unexpected and a true underdog. People love when an underdog rises up and goes above and beyond. If 'XB2' has next gen level hardware that matches the price, and that price is reasonable, then a worthy and more lengthy list of exclusives to go with that launch and the following years, could very well give 'XB2' the same boost that 360 had. Right now, while there is still room to go down since they aren't hurting that bad overall at this point, especially in comparison to the 360 sales, XB has plenty of room to move up and improve, which makes them potentially dangerous.

I see XB1 coasting for the rest of this gen for the most part, so it leads me to believe that we will see Switch surpassing it by the end of 2019, which may be short lived if we see a 2020 'XB2'.

Thing about 360 is the were factors that fell into their favour MS forced a new gen and forced a massive power jump in going HD this caused development costs to spike meaning many developers couldn't afford to be exclusive unless the platform holder footed cost, this was a major blow for Sony back then as they thrived off exclusives but at the same time it caused them to poured more investments into their first party for the future something MS didn't focus on as much. XB1 had no such factors fall into place for it so the gen normalised and tbh I don't see things getting better for their next platform as the library's pulling power has diminished some what this gen as a result of not properly focusing on first party investment.



If the current trend continues, then yes, Switch could outsell XboxOne before MS launches XboxTwo.



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Wyrdness said:
EricHiggin said:

It may not be a bad thing for XB actually. As long as the 'XB2' launch goes much smoother. While the 360 was a strong launch and a massive improvement in many ways, just focus on the fact that the 360 was unexpected and a true underdog. People love when an underdog rises up and goes above and beyond. If 'XB2' has next gen level hardware that matches the price, and that price is reasonable, then a worthy and more lengthy list of exclusives to go with that launch and the following years, could very well give 'XB2' the same boost that 360 had. Right now, while there is still room to go down since they aren't hurting that bad overall at this point, especially in comparison to the 360 sales, XB has plenty of room to move up and improve, which makes them potentially dangerous.

I see XB1 coasting for the rest of this gen for the most part, so it leads me to believe that we will see Switch surpassing it by the end of 2019, which may be short lived if we see a 2020 'XB2'.

Thing about 360 is the were factors that fell into their favour MS forced a new gen and forced a massive power jump in going HD this caused development costs to spike meaning many developers couldn't afford to be exclusive unless the platform holder footed cost, this was a major blow for Sony back then as they thrived off exclusives but at the same time it caused them to poured more investments into their first party for the future something MS didn't focus on as much. XB1 had no such factors fall into place for it so the gen normalised and tbh I don't see things getting better for their next platform as the library's pulling power has diminished some what this gen as a result of not properly focusing on first party investment.

My point wasn't that 'XB2' will turn out exactly like 7th gen in terms of sales specifically. Simply that the possibility for that this gen, is long over, and has been for a while now, so being in the position they are, they have a chance to "start fresh" in a way, and bring overall sales more into balance next gen. There is nothing stopping XB from building up their first party, and it's what they need to do is they are going to follow the console formula. However, PS isn't just going to sit around and watch, so XB will more than likely always be an underdog, but they can greatly reduce this by investing more in first party going forward. When you are in the position PS is now, at the peak of the mountain, staying up there consistently for a long period of time is not easy, and it's a potentially long fall if you can't defend your position. When your competition has the resources that XB does, you can never get to comfortable up there.