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Azzanation said:

Would you read a review on a game that the reviewer hasnt played? Thats exactly how some people sound in here. 

Reviews are guidelines nothing more. 

It makes perfect sense. 

It doesn't make sense.

"How do you give an opinion on something you havnt played? Please explain."

>He reads reviews

"But would you trust a review from someone who hasn't played the game"

>No?

"So you can't give an opinion on the game cause you haven't played it yet, mr. No Name Hero"

>But I read a review 

Hmmm ... 



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AngryLittleAlchemist said:
Azzanation said:

Would you read a review on a game that the reviewer hasnt played? Thats exactly how some people sound in here. 

Reviews are guidelines nothing more. 

It makes perfect sense. 

It doesn't make sense.

"How do you give an opinion on something you havnt played? Please explain."

>He reads reviews

"But would you trust a review from someone who hasn't played the game"

>No?

"So you can't give an opinion on the game cause you haven't played it yet, mr. No Name Hero"

>But I read a review 

Hmmm ... 

Reviews are guidelnes nothing more. If you want to shout claims from someone else's opinion does not make it your opinion. 

I play the games before i throw cristism. Some times you will find hidden gems.

I would not take a reviewer serious if he/she hasnt played the game just like i wouldnt take a randoms opinion on a game they havnt played. Its a pretty simple concept.



Azzanation said:
AngryLittleAlchemist said:

It doesn't make sense.

"How do you give an opinion on something you havnt played? Please explain."

>He reads reviews

"But would you trust a review from someone who hasn't played the game"

>No?

"So you can't give an opinion on the game cause you haven't played it yet, mr. No Name Hero"

>But I read a review 

Hmmm ... 

Reviews are guidelnes nothing more. If you want to shout claims from someone else's opinion does not make it your opinion. 

I play the games before i throw cristism. Some times you will find hidden gems.

I would not take a reviewer serious if he/she hasnt played the game just like i wouldnt take a randoms opinion on a game they havnt played. Its a pretty simple concept.

Right. But it's a self defeating point. It's too circular to work. You criticized someone for echoing reviews. But you trust reviewers. And ultimately, whether or not you "throw" criticism at a game, you are still likely to not buy the game due to received opinions of said reviewers. You are essentially adopting the opinion, you might not conform to it the point of writing negative comments on forums, but unless you literally don't care about reviews at all you're still forming an opinion based on others opinions. 

I would agree with you if the guy we are talking about was making a definitive statement about the entire games quality, and for all I know he has on other threads. Be he hasn't on this one, and the specific comment you guys replied to wasn't really worth dog-piling onto him for. You just don't like that he is repeating criticism the game has earned. Big deal. 



Mr Puggsly said:
thismeintiel said:

Agreed. I'll wait for official numbers before saying congrats. Though, this seems to be another No Man's Sky. We'll have to wait and see if MS is going to sink as much time and money into it as Hello Games did to flesh it out. 

 

Eh.... I dont recall MS making huge promises about what this game was. Its kinda exactly what I expected.

With No Man's Sky, I believe people were very much mislead. We werent even sure if it was a social experience, but the the answer was kinda yes but not really...

I think its silly to treat these two as the same. Not even the same genre really.

They did claim that the Beta was only ~10-20% of the full game.
Full game releases and its pretty clear that was a massive lie, the beta was basically the entire game.



JRPGfan said:
Mr Puggsly said:

 

Eh.... I dont recall MS making huge promises about what this game was. Its kinda exactly what I expected.

With No Man's Sky, I believe people were very much mislead. We werent even sure if it was a social experience, but the the answer was kinda yes but not really...

I think its silly to treat these two as the same. Not even the same genre really.

They did claim that the Beta was only ~10-20% of the full game.
Full game releases and its pretty clear that was a massive lie, the beta was basically the entire game.

When and where did they claim that? 



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AngryLittleAlchemist said:
Azzanation said:

How do you give an opinion on something you havnt played? Please explain.

Would you take a reviewer seriously if they came out and scored/reviewed a game that they havnt played?

 

DirtyP2002 said: 

Why nice try?

He called you out and you confirmed he was right.

 

That was not a try, that was ownage.

 

Let's take a look at thismeintiel's post that's being critiqued here. 

> "Rare's most ambitious game" isn't a huge promise?" Defining that huge promises were made. 

> "Instead people are getting bored after a couple hours." Says that people are getting bored of it. Not him. So ... good, so far not lying. How can we know whether or not people are getting bored after a couple of hours? Testimonials. What platform are we using, right this very minute, that can easily be used a testimonial regarding the game's quality? The internet. 

> "And seeing everything the game has to offer in under 4 hours." A continuation of the premise set up by the previous sentence. Obviously influenced by other peoples opinions of the game.

You guys act like he was making broad sweeping claims about the game that were so ridiculous only a player could form an opinion on them. Instead he pretty much just said what every reviewer has echoed, what every player has echoed, what every streamer has echoed. A lack of content. You can argue with him if you want to, but it seems highly suspect to make fun of someone and say they were given "ownage" because they are giving a general statement on a game that almost everyone who's played it agrees with. It really seems like you are only calling him out in this specific instance because this is a game you like, this standard is surely not something two-three users are going to apply consistently to themselves. 

You could say he's being a bit too snarky and I'd probably agree, but that is totally up to perception since this conversation is text based. Personally I think there's a difference though between your perceived quality of a game before playing it, and the quality you feel the game maintains after playing it, and it's totally fine for him to have a perceived notion of how good a game will probably be ... because we all have these notions in our head before we play a game. People only call them out as ridiculous as soon as they're negative. 

That and the posts that followed are a lot of texts to defend someone who was going to be negative about the game and any positive news about it no matter what.

No, you don't really need to play a game to know if you will like it or to have a general understanding of whether it's good or not. But parroting selective criticism as factual just reveals an agenda, so it makes sense for someone to call that person out. Anyone who has played the game knows you can't see everything it has to offer within four hours, yet he stated it factually. Just something anyone who has played the game would know.

People only call them out as ridiculous when they are ridiculous.



KiigelHeart said:
JRPGfan said:

They did claim that the Beta was only ~10-20% of the full game.
Full game releases and its pretty clear that was a massive lie, the beta was basically the entire game.

When and where did they claim that? 

I am very curious as well, I have been following all of Rares Videos about Sea of Thieves and didn't hear anything about 10-20% beta. Happy to be proven wrong if details can confirm it.



Why is there so much salt in here? The game had a successful launch get over it.



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KiigelHeart said:
JRPGfan said:

They did claim that the Beta was only ~10-20% of the full game.
Full game releases and its pretty clear that was a massive lie, the beta was basically the entire game.

When and where did they claim that? 

I remember someone data mined the beta? or alpha, and they replied to it saying something like
"dont worry, its just a beta, its only 20% of the game".
I tried googleing for it, but cant find anything... .am I the only one that remembers this?

Closest thing I could find was this:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Seaofthieves/comments/7uoz01/they_said_the_beta_was_only_20_of_the_game_right/

^ that person remembered it too.

*edit:  Might not have been MS or Rare that said the 20% number thingy.

Last edited by JRPGfan - on 29 March 2018

hudsoniscool said:
Why is there so much salt in here? The game had a successful launch get over it.

It's not the ones reacting critically to the game that are leaving salt. It's the wet pirates. You think it was successful? It sold on hype but didn't deliver. The sales and reviews reflect that.