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fatslob-:O on 28 March 2018
Ka-pi96 said:

Maybe you should go back and read previous posts.

His post was clearly about people thinking Pokemon will be some ridiculous system seller the likes of which have never been seen before. It will be a system seller, no doubt. But it was a system seller for every single Nintendo handheld so far. It's been seen plenty of times before and there's no reason to treat it like it's suddenly going to be a much bigger system seller for the Switch than it has been for Nintendo's handhelds.

Pretty much this ... 

His argument that Pokemon will grow to become a bigger franchise with the technical advances from the 3DS to the Switch falls flat when we consider a prior example of Pokemon advancing to the 3DS from the DS experiencing a decline in the franchise instead of growth despite the fact that Gen 6 made a leap to nearly full 3D polygonal models in it's assets ...



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Keybladewielder on 28 March 2018

It all depends on the support that Nintendo gives it late in its life, because that would give it longevity; if they drop it like they did with the Wii in 2011, then no way it'll be able to reach 100 million. Hardware revisions would definitely help too (something like a New Nintendo Switch or whatever they call it), as well as a late-life Pokémon game (gen 9 pokémon game).



Wyrdness on 28 March 2018
fatslob-:O said:
Ka-pi96 said:

Maybe you should go back and read previous posts.

His post was clearly about people thinking Pokemon will be some ridiculous system seller the likes of which have never been seen before. It will be a system seller, no doubt. But it was a system seller for every single Nintendo handheld so far. It's been seen plenty of times before and there's no reason to treat it like it's suddenly going to be a much bigger system seller for the Switch than it has been for Nintendo's handhelds.

Pretty much this ... 

His argument that Pokemon will grow to become a bigger franchise with the technical advances from the 3DS to the Switch falls flat when we consider a prior example of Pokemon advancing to the 3DS from the DS experiencing a decline in the franchise instead of growth despite the fact that Gen 6 made a leap to nearly full 3D polygonal models in it's assets ...

Except the 3DS games did see growth X/Y outsold both B/W and B/W2 as have S/M and ORAS LT likely will as well with digital.

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fatslob-:O on 28 March 2018
Wyrdness said:

Except the 3DS games did see growth X/Y outsold both B/W and B/W2 as have S/M, ORAS has also with digital.

How convenient of you to leave out Diamond/Pearl ... 



Wyrdness on 28 March 2018
fatslob-:O said:
Wyrdness said:

Except the 3DS games did see growth X/Y outsold both B/W and B/W2 as have S/M, ORAS has also with digital.

How convenient of you to leave out Diamond/Pearl ... 

How convenient of you to fail to realise that D/P itself was a leap over the prior gen which proves my point on technical advancements, oh and your post claimed 3DS was decline when it was a growth decline came with the DS games after D/P. Both X/Y and S/M are the 4 and 5th best sellers in the franchise which shoots down your whole post.



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FarleyMcFirefly on 28 March 2018

It will. I believe it will. Labo coming up, Smash Bros. Pokemon, Animal Crossing, etc. It will also get bundles and price cuts (bundles that actually save you money).



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AngryLittleAlchemist on 28 March 2018
LethalP said:
AngryLittleAlchemist said:

But you know, I don't see a lot of people saying that "everyone and their moms" has a PS4, yet it's on track to eventually SURPASS the Wii. Really, the whole "everyone and their moms/grandparents/aunts" thing seems to be more so a caricature of how wide an audience can possibly be, but not necessarily how big it is as a whole. If the Wii actually catered well to all of it's potential audience ("everyone and their moms") then it would have sold a hell of a lot more than 100 million. That sentence is just a description used for consoles like the Wii, or the PS2, which have exterior factors to get people to buy them (DVD drives, motion controls) and as a result have a wide audience. That doesn't necessarily mean much if, like with the Wii, some of the demographics are being neglected.

It's kind of like the idiom : wide as an ocean, deep as a puddle. Sometimes what matters is how well you cater to a few select demographics, and not how many you can fit under your belt. 

By "everyone and their moms" it means casual buyers. People who don't play games often or ever. This explains the surplus sales of the Wii and DS and games like Brain Age and Nintendogs. The reason PS consoles sell so well is because the core console market is solidified (about 170-180 million buyers). PS and Xbox substitute eachothers sales. What Nintendo has been doing since the Wii is totally seperate. It's not rocket science.

....

That was literally my point.



zorg1000 on 28 March 2018
fatslob-:O said:
Wyrdness said:

Except the 3DS games did see growth X/Y outsold both B/W and B/W2 as have S/M, ORAS has also with digital.

How convenient of you to leave out Diamond/Pearl ... 

DS

D/P-17.67m

B/W-15.64m

HG/SS-12.72m

B2/W2-7.81m

Total-53.84m

 

3DS

X/Y-16.26m

S/M-16.05m

OR/AS-13.94m

US/UM-7.17m

Total-53.42m

 

Keep in mind 3DS titles are still selling, i dont really see how you can say its a decline.



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jlauro on 28 March 2018

It really depends how long Nintendo sells it, and if you count variants (larger or higher-res screen, faster processor but compatible, etc). If newer models are included in the count, then Nintendo can stretch the sales for a long, long time and exceed Wii sales easily. If you only count price cuts and minor changes such as bundles and color scheme, then probably not. That said, the switch does have the advantage it's more likely to be multiple per household than the wii, so I wouldn't be surprised if they get the price point low enough.



Lawlight on 28 March 2018

I don’t think so.