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Forums - Politics Discussion - NYC must pay 180K$ to 3 Muslim women forced to remove hijabs for mugshots

DonFerrari said:
quickrick said:

i mean you can say the same thing for someone with  a beard, or cutting there hair bold. face should be enough to identify a person, should someone  who has a big beard or long hair have to shave.

 

 

not hard to  distinguish  at all.

If you present an id and can't be recognizable (be it because of beard) you may be refused when coming to a different country or be conducted to precinct to clarify who you are.

this http://www.abc.net.au/news/image/2222536-3x2-940x627.jpg is also religious and they would be allowed to use it... quite easy for any criminal to walk around like this and do some crime right?

like i said normal hijab is easily recognizable, i don't agree with the ninja hijab though because its hides the person identity, honestly it even bothers many muslims i know.   



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quickrick said:
DonFerrari said:

If you present an id and can't be recognizable (be it because of beard) you may be refused when coming to a different country or be conducted to precinct to clarify who you are.

this http://www.abc.net.au/news/image/2222536-3x2-940x627.jpg is also religious and they would be allowed to use it... quite easy for any criminal to walk around like this and do some crime right?

like i said normal hijab is easily recognizable, i don't agree with the ninja hijab though because its hides the person identity, honestly it even bothers many muslims i know.   

They all enter the religious freedom. So they can use it if they want. So?

And seem like you never seem how easy is to confuse someone just by wearing a cap and glasses, to say a common hijab can't deceive normal look out. If it didn't impair the recognition no one would be demanded to take the mugshots without it.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

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Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

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DonFerrari said:
quickrick said:

like i said normal hijab is easily recognizable, i don't agree with the ninja hijab though because its hides the person identity, honestly it even bothers many muslims i know.   

They all enter the religious freedom. So they can use it if they want. So?

And seem like you never seem how easy is to confuse someone just by wearing a cap and glasses, to say a common hijab can't deceive normal look out. If it didn't impair the recognition no one would be demanded to take the mugshots without it.

A cap and sun  glasses is way more concealing  then a normal hijab, normal hijab is only meant to cover the hair. they have to change the law, where you can not cover your face, thats fair. even so, are they gonna make a law where you can't wear a cap, or sun glasses.



quickrick said:
DonFerrari said:

They all enter the religious freedom. So they can use it if they want. So?

And seem like you never seem how easy is to confuse someone just by wearing a cap and glasses, to say a common hijab can't deceive normal look out. If it didn't impair the recognition no one would be demanded to take the mugshots without it.

A cap and sun  glasses is way more concealing  then a normal hijab, normal hijab is only meant to cover the hair. they have to change the law, where you can not cover your face, thats fair. even so, are they gonna make a law where you can't wear a cap, or sun glasses.

Cap cover less than hijab (which covers also the ears, some neck and can somewhat change your face proportions because of reference), and sunglasses sure cover a lot and can be used with hijab.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

Maybe we should all agree that all religions need to die...



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Errorist76 said:
Maybe we should all agree that all religions need to die...

what if the stories are true :P



quickrick said:
Errorist76 said:
Maybe we should all agree that all religions need to die...

what if the stories are true :P

They aren’t.

The only true religion isn’t one...it’s Buddhism.



DonFerrari said:
quickrick said:

A cap and sun  glasses is way more concealing  then a normal hijab, normal hijab is only meant to cover the hair. they have to change the law, where you can not cover your face, thats fair. even so, are they gonna make a law where you can't wear a cap, or sun glasses.

Cap cover less than hijab (which covers also the ears, some neck and can somewhat change your face proportions because of reference), and sunglasses sure cover a lot and can be used with hijab.

i guess you have a point, but hijab with face showing is easily identified these days, the id's are  accepted WW, even in Israel. 



Errorist76 said:
quickrick said:

what if the stories are true :P

They aren’t.

The only true religion isn’t one...it’s Buddhism.

i'm more agonistic, the life is so strange that you never know. most likely we die and it's over though, we just don't exist anymore.



quickrick said:
DonFerrari said:

Cap cover less than hijab (which covers also the ears, some neck and can somewhat change your face proportions because of reference), and sunglasses sure cover a lot and can be used with hijab.

i guess you have a point, but hijab with face showing is easily identified these days, the id's are  accepted WW, even in Israel. 

I have no issue with someone wanting to use hijab (or caps+glasses), the issue is with being allowed to remove it unless they go to private room with female officer, because then that religious freedom can make it easier for criminals to get away. Another bad point is in cases were the female is obligated to use it by family or husband and sometimes even beaten due to ie.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."