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Forums - Politics Discussion - NYC must pay 180K$ to 3 Muslim women forced to remove hijabs for mugshots

irstupid said:
Tulipanzo said:
Good, should show what happens when you fuck up on duty.

When you mess up on duty?

I would hardly call making someone remove a head covering so that they can get a mug shot of a criminal fucking up.

And just an FYI, this payout means that us citizens paid for it. That money comes out of our paychecks. Or at least those in New York City paying for that department. The government, city, law enforcement, ect getting sued is never a win for us citizens unless it results in a law change for the better.

In this case, a law change should be made that they should be forced to remove their headwear and take a mug shot.

They can already ask to show hair to determine hair color, and by all accounts a cop should know this.
A mug shot is for identification, i.e. your face should be seen. You shouldn't be passing more laws, you should train your cops better.



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This is an abuse of courts, public safety comes before any right to use a mask or any other concealing of face. One can keep its face covered at home.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

Ronster316 said:
Crock of shit......... you are in the USA.,.... take off your oppressive garment...... and you paid them? MUGS..!!!! simple.

Do as we want you to. Shut up. Don't complain. And take off those "oppressive" garments that you want to wear. Want to cover up your body? Fuck you. You have no right. We don't tolerate oppressive behaviour here. 



DonFerrari said:
This is an abuse of courts, public safety comes before any right to use a mask or any other concealing of face. One can keep its face covered at home.

unless it was the ninja hijab, i can see your point, but you can tell somebody face clearly with regular hijab on. anyway lucky them, what a come up.



 

bananaking21 said:
Ronster316 said:
Crock of shit......... you are in the USA.,.... take off your oppressive garment...... and you paid them? MUGS..!!!! simple.

Do as we want you to. Shut up. Don't complain. And take off those "oppressive" garments that you want to wear. Want to cover up your body? Fuck you. You have no right. We don't tolerate oppressive behaviour here. 

I'll create my religion where one must use ski mask and helmet when on the street, I bet I'll get a lot of followers.

quickrick said:
DonFerrari said:
This is an abuse of courts, public safety comes before any right to use a mask or any other concealing of face. One can keep its face covered at home.

unless it was the ninja hijab, i can see your point, but you can tell somebody face clearly with regular hijab on. anyway lucky them, what a come up.

Burka is also a religious garment and it covers up much of the face... and guess what, when you don't have your full head exposed it is a lot harder to really distinguish the person.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

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...then they should go back to the country where an oppressive regime incarcerates inhumanly, tortures and rapes its citizens. They dont take mugshots there.



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DonFerrari said:

 

bananaking21 said:

Do as we want you to. Shut up. Don't complain. And take off those "oppressive" garments that you want to wear. Want to cover up your body? Fuck you. You have no right. We don't tolerate oppressive behaviour here. 

I'll create my religion where one must use ski mask and helmet when on the street, I bet I'll get a lot of followers.

quickrick said:

unless it was the ninja hijab, i can see your point, but you can tell somebody face clearly with regular hijab on. anyway lucky them, what a come up.

Burka is also a religious garment and it covers up much of the face... and guess what, when you don't have your full head exposed it is a lot harder to really distinguish the person.

i mean you can say the same thing for someone with  a beard, or cutting there hair bold. face should be enough to identify a person, should someone  who has a big beard or long hair have to shave.

 

 

not hard to  distinguish  at all. now on the ninja hijab, that of course, can't be allowed, because you can't tell who the person is.

Last edited by quickrick - on 01 March 2018

quickrick said:
DonFerrari said:

 

I'll create my religion where one must use ski mask and helmet when on the street, I bet I'll get a lot of followers.

Burka is also a religious garment and it covers up much of the face... and guess what, when you don't have your full head exposed it is a lot harder to really distinguish the person.

i mean you can say the same thing for someone with  a beard, or cutting there hair bold. face should be enough to identify a person, should someone  who has a big beard or long hair have to shave.

 

 

not hard to  distinguish  at all.

If you present an id and can't be recognizable (be it because of beard) you may be refused when coming to a different country or be conducted to precinct to clarify who you are.

this http://www.abc.net.au/news/image/2222536-3x2-940x627.jpg is also religious and they would be allowed to use it... quite easy for any criminal to walk around like this and do some crime right?



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

DonFerrari said:
quickrick said:

i mean you can say the same thing for someone with  a beard, or cutting there hair bold. face should be enough to identify a person, should someone  who has a big beard or long hair have to shave.

 

 

not hard to  distinguish  at all.

If you present an id and can't be recognizable (be it because of beard) you may be refused when coming to a different country or be conducted to precinct to clarify who you are.

this http://www.abc.net.au/news/image/2222536-3x2-940x627.jpg is also religious and they would be allowed to use it... quite easy for any criminal to walk around like this and do some crime right?

like i said normal hijab is easily recognizable, i don't agree with the ninja hijab though because its hides the person identity, honestly it even bothers many muslims i know.   



quickrick said:
DonFerrari said:

If you present an id and can't be recognizable (be it because of beard) you may be refused when coming to a different country or be conducted to precinct to clarify who you are.

this http://www.abc.net.au/news/image/2222536-3x2-940x627.jpg is also religious and they would be allowed to use it... quite easy for any criminal to walk around like this and do some crime right?

like i said normal hijab is easily recognizable, i don't agree with the ninja hijab though because its hides the person identity, honestly it even bothers many muslims i know.   

They all enter the religious freedom. So they can use it if they want. So?

And seem like you never seem how easy is to confuse someone just by wearing a cap and glasses, to say a common hijab can't deceive normal look out. If it didn't impair the recognition no one would be demanded to take the mugshots without it.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."