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SWORDF1SH said:
xMetroid said:

Hmm i'm not sure, i don't think it made it in February but it was still in the top 10 in most of January i think.

 

Good god Zelda #2 that's amazing.

Shoot Kirby is in the top 20 too ! Nice.

It seems Switch is making a late February surge. This should see off the Xbox promotions 

switch was much higher in monthly rankings in January, which is what really matters, and supposedly switch  won by a small amount, February is gonna be a toss up.  i know it doesn't mean much but since they are very close switch is much lower on the lists then ps4/xb at bestbuy/gamestop.



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Lawlight said:
Nuvendil said:

That would make sense...except the PS4 just came off a huge year, both world wide and in the US.  We have to wait and see if anything has really changed there.  But that could be having an impact at this stage, though things like the Slim version and Pro will sell to those who own a basic model.  That's part of the way PS1, PS2, and PS3 kept selling.  New models to current owners.

In the US? Sales look fairly flat to me with the $199 PS4 helping a lot. Sales were still down by quite a bit compared to 2015. Worldwide, of course, it’s showing legs like a normal PS console would. And not sure why regular PS4 owners would need to move to the Slim though a small fraction have upgraded to the Pro. And no, that’s not how the PS1, PS2 and PS3 kept selling. Consoles are different to handhelds - in general, people just don’t change to a different model unless they need to. The PS consoles keep selling because as time goes by prices go down making it more affordable to more people while, at the same time,the library gets better. Selling new models to current owners - that’s a Nintendo practice. How many 3DS models did they release? 7?

That is a Nintendo *handheld* practice.  The N64, GCN, Wii, and Wii U never had serious revisions to the units themselves.  Sony, however, has always had multiple console revisions.  Not criticising, just pointing it out.  And I said that was part of the way they kept selling.  Library growth and competitive pricing were part of that too.

And the basic PS4 had 500GB of storage.  The current Slim is 1TB.  With file size bloat ever growing, that is a significant difference.  

Edit: to be clear, I never said Nintendo didn't do similar things.  Just that Sony has in the past.  PS3 in particular.  Though the PS One accounts for over 28 million of the origina Playstation's sales.

Last edited by Nuvendil - on 26 February 2018

Nuvendil said:
Lawlight said:

In the US? Sales look fairly flat to me with the $199 PS4 helping a lot. Sales were still down by quite a bit compared to 2015. Worldwide, of course, it’s showing legs like a normal PS console would. And not sure why regular PS4 owners would need to move to the Slim though a small fraction have upgraded to the Pro. And no, that’s not how the PS1, PS2 and PS3 kept selling. Consoles are different to handhelds - in general, people just don’t change to a different model unless they need to. The PS consoles keep selling because as time goes by prices go down making it more affordable to more people while, at the same time,the library gets better. Selling new models to current owners - that’s a Nintendo practice. How many 3DS models did they release? 7?

That is a Nintendo *handheld* practice.  The N64, GCN, Wii, and Wii U never had serious revisions to the units themselves.  Sony, however, has always had multiple console revisions.  Not criticising, just pointing it out.  And I said that was part of the way they kept selling.  Library growth and competitive pricing were part of that too.

And the basic PS4 had 500GB of storage.  The current Slim is 1TB.  With file size bloat ever growing, that is a significant difference.  

Edit: to be clear, I never said Nintendo didn't do similar things.  Just that Sony has in the past.  PS3 in particular.  Though the PS One accounts for over 28 million of the origina Playstation's sales.

PSOne-2000

PS2-2000

PSP-2004

PS2 Slim-2004

PS3-2006

PSP 2000-2007

PSP 3000-2008

PS3 Slim-2009

PSP Go-2009

PSP E1000-2011

Vita-2011

PS3 Super Slim-2012

Vita 2000-2013

PS4-2013

PS4 Slim-2016

PS4 Pro-2016

 

Its a Nintendo thing..........



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Nuvendil said:
Lawlight said:

In the US? Sales look fairly flat to me with the $199 PS4 helping a lot. Sales were still down by quite a bit compared to 2015. Worldwide, of course, it’s showing legs like a normal PS console would. And not sure why regular PS4 owners would need to move to the Slim though a small fraction have upgraded to the Pro. And no, that’s not how the PS1, PS2 and PS3 kept selling. Consoles are different to handhelds - in general, people just don’t change to a different model unless they need to. The PS consoles keep selling because as time goes by prices go down making it more affordable to more people while, at the same time,the library gets better. Selling new models to current owners - that’s a Nintendo practice. How many 3DS models did they release? 7?

That is a Nintendo *handheld* practice.  The N64, GCN, Wii, and Wii U never had serious revisions to the units themselves.  Sony, however, has always had multiple console revisions.  Not criticising, just pointing it out.  And I said that was part of the way they kept selling.  Library growth and competitive pricing were part of that too.

And the basic PS4 had 500GB of storage.  The current Slim is 1TB.  With file size bloat ever growing, that is a significant difference.  

Edit: to be clear, I never said Nintendo didn't do similar things.  Just that Sony has in the past.  PS3 in particular.  Though the PS One accounts for over 28 million of the origina Playstation's sales.

Sony’s revisions have always been to cut manufacturing costs, as opposed to extending the life of their system, with the Pro being the exception as it was created to push 4K. The PS3 in particular is where they demonstrated that with each revision trimming on features and costing less.



zorg1000 said:
Nuvendil said:

That is a Nintendo *handheld* practice.  The N64, GCN, Wii, and Wii U never had serious revisions to the units themselves.  Sony, however, has always had multiple console revisions.  Not criticising, just pointing it out.  And I said that was part of the way they kept selling.  Library growth and competitive pricing were part of that too.

And the basic PS4 had 500GB of storage.  The current Slim is 1TB.  With file size bloat ever growing, that is a significant difference.  

Edit: to be clear, I never said Nintendo didn't do similar things.  Just that Sony has in the past.  PS3 in particular.  Though the PS One accounts for over 28 million of the origina Playstation's sales.

PSOne-2000

PS2-2000

PSP-2004

PS2 Slim-2004

PS3-2006

PSP 2000-2007

PSP 3000-2008

PS3 Slim-2009

PSP Go-2009

PSP E1000-2011

Vita-2011

PS3 Super Slim-2012

Vita 2000-2013

PS4-2013

PS4 Slim-2016

PS4 Pro-2016

 

Its a Nintendo thing..........

What’s the difference between the PSPs? And what’s the difference between the Vitas? And really, what’s the difference between the PS4 and the PS4 Slim other than a minor form factor difference? 



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Nuvendil said:
Lawlight said:

In the US? Sales look fairly flat to me with the $199 PS4 helping a lot. Sales were still down by quite a bit compared to 2015. Worldwide, of course, it’s showing legs like a normal PS console would. And not sure why regular PS4 owners would need to move to the Slim though a small fraction have upgraded to the Pro. And no, that’s not how the PS1, PS2 and PS3 kept selling. Consoles are different to handhelds - in general, people just don’t change to a different model unless they need to. The PS consoles keep selling because as time goes by prices go down making it more affordable to more people while, at the same time,the library gets better. Selling new models to current owners - that’s a Nintendo practice. How many 3DS models did they release? 7?

That is a Nintendo *handheld* practice.  The N64, GCN, Wii, and Wii U never had serious revisions to the units themselves. 

I kinda disagree with Wii, there were 3 versions. 



 

Lawlight said:
zorg1000 said:

PSOne-2000

PS2-2000

PSP-2004

PS2 Slim-2004

PS3-2006

PSP 2000-2007

PSP 3000-2008

PS3 Slim-2009

PSP Go-2009

PSP E1000-2011

Vita-2011

PS3 Super Slim-2012

Vita 2000-2013

PS4-2013

PS4 Slim-2016

PS4 Pro-2016

 

Its a Nintendo thing..........

What’s the difference between the PSPs? And what’s the difference between the Vitas? And really, what’s the difference between the PS4 and the PS4 Slim other than a minor form factor difference? 

PSP? Lets see change in ram, flash rom, thinning the model, and making it brighter, lack of UMD in the PSP Go and change of form factor? Vita the later version is actually downgrade in terms of screen and much thinner as well, but you also have Vita TV. 

I bought all  three versions main versions of the PSP, between PSP1000 and PSP2000. It was noticeable improvement, and felt better.

Last edited by Acevil - on 26 February 2018

 

Acevil said:

 

Lawlight said:

What’s the difference between the PSPs? And what’s the difference between the Vitas? And really, what’s the difference between the PS4 and the PS4 Slim other than a minor form factor difference? 

PSP? Lets see change in ram, flash rom, thinning the model, and making it brighter, lack of UMD in the PSP Go and change of form factor? Vita the later version is actually downgrade in terms of screen and much thinner as well, but you also have Vita TV. 

I bought all  three versions main versions of the PSP, between PSP1000 and PSP2000. It was noticeable improvement, and felt better.

No offense but all the PSPs besides the Go look exactly the same. I’m not sure how you can differentiate one from the other just by looking at it.

The Vita was obviously them trying to reduce cost by removing the OLED screen. I am not sure what the point of the Vita TV was.

I think there’s a difference between cost cutting and making a hardware smaller vs continuously making a hardware different/better, raising the price and making older hardware redundant just to force existing owners to upgrade. There really is no reason to have so many 3DS models.



quickrick said:
SWORDF1SH said:

It seems Switch is making a late February surge. This should see off the Xbox promotions 

switch was much higher in monthly rankings in January, which is what really matters, and supposedly switch  won by a small amount, February is gonna be a toss up.  i know it doesn't mean much but since they are very close switch is much lower on the lists then ps4/xb at bestbuy/gamestop.

Heum PS4 was also way up in the charts. It did so much better in January compare to February and actually got a way bigger drop than Switch.

 

Also, there was new software and controllers in sale during February, i don't think the Switch is really doing worst.



xMetroid said:
quickrick said:

switch was much higher in monthly rankings in January, which is what really matters, and supposedly switch  won by a small amount, February is gonna be a toss up.  i know it doesn't mean much but since they are very close switch is much lower on the lists then ps4/xb at bestbuy/gamestop.

Heum PS4 was also way up in the charts. It did so much better in January compare to February and actually got a way bigger drop than Switch.

 

Also, there was new software and controllers in sale during February, i don't think the Switch is really doing worst.

ps4 has been sold out at amazon most of Feburary.