curl-6 said:
Yet again; We. Have. The. Specs. |
And hardware optimization is a thing; So. The. Specs. Aren't. The. Whole. Story.
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The Nintendo Switch hardware is... | |||
| A big leap over 7th gen | 71 | 40.11% | |
| A minor leap over 7th gen | 72 | 40.68% | |
| About the same as 7th gen | 24 | 13.56% | |
| Actually WORSE than last gen | 10 | 5.65% | |
| Total: | 177 | ||
curl-6 said:
Yet again; We. Have. The. Specs. |
And hardware optimization is a thing; So. The. Specs. Aren't. The. Whole. Story.
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Azuren said:
And hardware optimization is a thing; So. The. Specs. Aren't. The. Whole. Story. |
You can stick your head in the sand as deep as you like, literally all of the evidence is on our side and none of it is on yours. You're factually wrong. I suggest you accept that and move on, because this prolonged display of denial serves no purpose.
curl-6 said:
You can stick your head in the sand as deep as you like, literally all of the evidence is on our side and none of it is on yours. You're factually wrong. I suggest you accept that and move on, because this prolonged display of denial serves no purpose. |
And you are implying a trend with two examples while also ignoring hardware optimization. The difference is I defend my stance so that I can properly compare them later, whereas you're trying to tell me that actively not having a say is wrong.
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Azuren said:
And you are implying a trend with two examples while also ignoring hardware optimization. The difference is I defend my stance so that I can properly compare them later, whereas you're trying to tell me that actively not having a say is wrong. |
Nobody is ignoring optimization, but optimization is not unique to either side and thus does not alter the specs gap, which by the way those examples perform exactly in line with, thus verifying the power disparity.
You can refrain from having a say if you want, but the question already has a factual answer.
curl-6 said:
Nobody is ignoring optimization, but optimization is not unique to either side and thus does not alter the specs gap, which by the way those examples perform exactly in line with, thus verifying the power disparity. You can refrain from having a say if you want, but the question already has a factual answer. |
Except optimization is unique on each side, because the hardware between the PS3, 360, and Switch are all drastically different from one another.
And the question has a factual answer for arguably one game (not giving Skyrim the point since Bethesda has been practicing that game for ten years). I'm waiting for a trend before saying anything, whereas you just seem gung-ho to declare a victor.
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Azuren said:
Except optimization is unique on each side, because the hardware between the PS3, 360, and Switch are all drastically different from one another. And the question has a factual answer for arguably one game (not giving Skyrim the point since Bethesda has been practicing that game for ten years). I'm waiting for a trend before saying anything, whereas you just seem gung-ho to declare a victor. |
But the Switch is technically superior hardware, so given an equal degree of optimization on all three, graphics will always be better on Switch.
From the moment the specs were leaked, we had a factual answer. Specs are facts.
curl-6 said:
But the Switch is technically superior hardware, so given an equal degree of optimization on all three, graphics will always be better on Switch. From the moment the specs were leaked, we had a factual answer. Specs are facts. |
Except not all hardware optimizes to the same degree, so no.
Specs are part of the facts.
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Azuren said:
Except not all hardware optimizes to the same degree, so no. Specs are part of the facts. |
No offense but you simply don't know what you're talking about if you think even the most optimized PS3/360 game can perform on par with a game optimized for six times as much RAM and a GPU ten years newer.
curl-6 said:
No offense but you simply don't know what you're talking about if you think even the most optimized PS3/360 game can perform on par with a game optimized for six times as much RAM and a GPU ten years newer. |
Six times the RAM one sixth the size in a casing one twentieth the size with a GPU ten years newer with one tenth the size with one tenth the fan.
Look, it's clear I'm not convincing you that I'm free to be skeptical until I have enough good evidence in my hands, nor are you convincing me that SPECZ are the end of the conversation.
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Azuren said:
Six times the RAM one sixth the size in a casing one twentieth the size with a GPU ten years newer with one tenth the size with one tenth the fan. Look, it's clear I'm not convincing you that I'm free to be skeptical until I have enough good evidence in my hands, nor are you convincing me that SPECZ are the end of the conversation. |
Casing size doesn't make a Gigabyte of RAM count for less, 3GB is 3GB. And fabrication size shrunk massively from 2005 to 2015, allowing the same number of transistors or even considerably more to fit into a vastly smaller space.
You're free to remain skeptical, and it is clear at this point this discussion is at a dead end, so yeah, no point continuing this.