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Azuren said:
curl-6 said:

You can stick your head in the sand as deep as you like, literally all of the evidence is on our side and none of it is on yours. You're factually wrong. I suggest you accept that and move on, because this prolonged display of denial serves no purpose.

And you are implying a trend with two examples while also ignoring hardware optimization. The difference is I defend my stance so that I can properly compare them later, whereas you're trying to tell me that actively not having a say is wrong.

Nobody is ignoring optimization, but optimization is not unique to either side and thus does not alter the specs gap, which by the way those examples perform exactly in line with, thus verifying the power disparity.

You can refrain from having a say if you want, but the question already has a factual answer.