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KLXVER on 09 January 2018
xl-klaudkil said:
Wow so all of a sudden switch is a console?
Ooowkey.

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Insidb on 09 January 2018

"THIS IS OUR EUROPE!"
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Robert_Downey_Jr. on 09 January 2018

Isn’t that kinda cheating since now Nintendo won’t have a new handheld? Kinda hurting one market to help the other.



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PAOerfulone on 09 January 2018
Jranation said:
Nintendomination!!!! And Splatoon 2 continues to beat other franchises. What's next?

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irstupid on 09 January 2018
RolStoppable said:
Does this really add up? Up by 72.9% sounds a lot more realistic.

Why? 173% is not insane or outrageous.

OTBWY said:
gabzjmm23 said:
OP - not all games are from Nintendo. PS4 DQXI is there. duh. :P

Japan is really more of a handheld market now. With Switch hybrid setup, it is a win-win for them. And we know there could be more Switch iterations in the future and a single household could have more than 1 system compared to a home console. Lets wait and see how things would be in 2018. 2018 is the year Playstation would have a ton of great exclusives but I believe targeted more on western audiences, I still think it can get some good sales in Japan.

Not just the Switch is up though.

About DQXI, the 3DS version is on the list. It's on a Nintendo system, which is what was said.

Aren't the PS4 and 3DS versions different though



shoichi on 09 January 2018
RolStoppable said:
irstupid said:

Why? 173% is not insane or outrageous.

The numbers for total hardware sales in 2016 and 2017 I have in my mind are ~4.5m and ~8m, respectively. Exact figures will differ, but relative to each other they should be in the right ballpark.

On second thought though, the comparison could very well be based on revenue instead of unit sales, in which case there would be no contradiction. Unit sales up by ~70%, revenue up by ~170%. I didn't click the link in the OP and went with unit sales in my initial post. Still didn't click the link, but a revenue-based comparison is a good enough explanation.

172.9% is not that outrageous. Need to remember 70% of 2016 sales would be 3,412,773 using Famitsu's data for 2016 (a decrease YoY), 170% increase is 8,288,163 sold (an increase YoY). I think you may be understanding %'s incorrectly in this case, 100% equals same level, 50% equals half the level, 150% equals 1.5x the level. If anything the wording was just incorrectly phrased.

This is all using Famitsu data as comparative to 2016 console sales which according to the link below sold a total of 4,875,390 game systems in 2016.

https://www.serkantoto.com/2017/01/06/size-of-japans-console-gaming-market/

Using just the information that Famitsu has provided, they believe the Switch by itself sold somewhere around 3.3 million or so in Japan alone in 2017. That is equal to 67% of 2016 total game systems (PS4, WiiU, XBO, 3DS, etc.) in Japan sold.

Using data from the charts forum. About 4.2 million "other" consoles have been sold in 2017. 

1,935,247 PS4, 396,207 Vita, 14,644 XBO, 21,817 WiiU, 16,394 PS3, 1,827,131 3DS

Combining the 3.3 with the 4.2 equals 7.5 million estimated. Which is close-ish to the number of 173% increase (number is closer to 165% though based on what info I had gathered though it may be incorrect).

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OTBWY on 09 January 2018
irstupid said:
RolStoppable said:
Does this really add up? Up by 72.9% sounds a lot more realistic.

Why? 173% is not insane or outrageous.

OTBWY said:

Not just the Switch is up though.

About DQXI, the 3DS version is on the list. It's on a Nintendo system, which is what was said.

Aren't the PS4 and 3DS versions different though

Same game but the 3DS has 3D on top and 16 bit on the bottom screen.



LivingMetal on 09 January 2018

This is due to the Switch being the most powerful console on the market, correct?



shoichi on 09 January 2018
RolStoppable said:
shoichi said:

172.9% is not that outrageous. Need to remember 70% of 2016 sales would be 3,412,773 using Famitsu's data for 2016 (a decrease YoY), 170% increase is 8,288,163 sold (an increase YoY). I think you may be understanding %'s incorrectly in this case.

This is all using Famitsu data as comparative to 2016 console sales which according to the link below sold a total of 4,875,390 game systems in 2016.

https://www.serkantoto.com/2017/01/06/size-of-japans-console-gaming-market/

Using just the information that Famitsu has provided, they believe the Switch by itself sold somewhere around 3.3 million or so in Japan alone in 2017. That is equal to 67% of 2016 total game systems (PS4, WiiU, XBO, 3DS, etc.) in Japan sold.

Using data from the charts forum. About 4.2 million "other" consoles have been sold in 2017. 

1,935,247 PS4, 396,207 Vita, 14,644 XBO, 21,817 WiiU, 16,394 PS3, 1,827,131 3DS

Combining the 3.3 with the 4.2 equals 7.5 million estimated. Which is close-ish to the number of 173% increase (number is closer to 165% though based on what info I had gathered though it may be incorrect).

A 173% increase to a base value of 4.875m results in ~13.3m, so a 172.9% in unit sales can be ruled out. Either the provided increase by Famitsu is wrong or the comparison is revenue-based. I believe it's the latter.

IMO, its more likely the website that the OP linked from just phrased the title incorrectly. 

The Famitsu website source is talking about hardware sale numbers and not revenue numbers. 

edit: Yup you are correct. Looked at the source article to find where the information was gathered.

translated the part where the info is located

https://www.famitsu.com/news/201801/09149462.html

単位(Units)：億円 (PER 100 MILLION YEN[PER 1 MILLION USD])

2017年(year)（53週(weeks)）
ハード(hardware)：2023.7（昨年対比 (contrast compared to prior year) 172.9％）
ソフト(software)：1893.8（昨年対比 (contrast) 103.8％）
合計(total)：3917.5（昨年対比 (contrast) 130.8％）

2016年(year)（52週(weeks)）
ハード(hardware)：1170.5
ソフト(software)：1824.3
合計(total)：2994.8

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