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LudicrousSpeed on 07 January 2018
Puppyroach said:
Errorist76 said:

1. But they are.

2. Sony had Nier, Nioh, Persona 5, Gravity Rush 2, GT Sport, Horizon, Wipeout, Uncharted TLL, Hellblade, RE7 VR, Skyrim VR, ...

Nintendo had Mario, Zelda, Mario Kart, Splatoon 2, Xenoblade Chronicles 2, ARMS, 

MS had Cuphead, Forza 7 and Halo Wars 2

and you’re saying my view is not objective?!

But the post I responded to had nothing to do with the number of quality releases, so what are you even responding to? The post stated that Xbox One lacked quality content, and I provided examples of quality content. If you instead want to turn it into a pissing contest over who has the most exclusives or the most quality releases per year, then you can raise that post seperately.

Not to mention the games you listed, MS had a hand in directly. Same with the Nintendo games he listed. But the Sony list is full of stuff like VR versions of already existing games and third party stuff like Hellblade, Persona, and Nier. Like you said, pissing contest nonsense lol.

Its also fucking hilarious to read how Microsoft is to blame for “reducing competition to a hardware arms race” when the Pro beat the Scorpio to market by a year, not to mention the extreme hyperbole we saw at launch of this gen regarding the PS4 power over Xbone.



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Puppyroach on 07 January 2018
LudicrousSpeed said:
Puppyroach said:

But the post I responded to had nothing to do with the number of quality releases, so what are you even responding to? The post stated that Xbox One lacked quality content, and I provided examples of quality content. If you instead want to turn it into a pissing contest over who has the most exclusives or the most quality releases per year, then you can raise that post seperately.

Not to mention the games you listed, MS had a hand in directly. Same with the Nintendo games he listed. But the Sony list is full of stuff like VR versions of already existing games and third party stuff like Hellblade, Persona, and Nier. Like you said, pissing contest nonsense lol.

Its also fucking hilarious to read how Microsoft is to blame for “reducing competition to a hardware arms race” when the Pro beat the Scorpio to market by a year, not to mention the extreme hyperbole we saw at launch of this gen regarding the PS4 power over Xbone.

Exactly. I am not satisfied at all with the few releases that has come to XBox, but to say there is lack of quality content is just factually false and the video game industry has been a hardware arms race since the 80´s so I didn´t even understand what the purpose of the post in that regard was about :).



Errorist76 on 07 January 2018
Puppyroach said:
LudicrousSpeed said:

Not to mention the games you listed, MS had a hand in directly. Same with the Nintendo games he listed. But the Sony list is full of stuff like VR versions of already existing games and third party stuff like Hellblade, Persona, and Nier. Like you said, pissing contest nonsense lol.

Its also fucking hilarious to read how Microsoft is to blame for “reducing competition to a hardware arms race” when the Pro beat the Scorpio to market by a year, not to mention the extreme hyperbole we saw at launch of this gen regarding the PS4 power over Xbone.

Exactly. I am not satisfied at all with the few releases that has come to XBox, but to say there is lack of quality content is just factually false and the video game industry has been a hardware arms race since the 80´s so I didn´t even understand what the purpose of the post in that regard was about :).

I’ll just leave this here.

http://www.metacritic.com/feature/best-video-games-of-2017?ref=hp



DonFerrari on 07 January 2018
LuzerkBR said:
DonFerrari said:

For this gen there is almost zero chance X1 can have a 11-12M year, that would be a to step increase on sales on a very late year for the console.

If there is more than 0% chance, then there is a chance lol! I know that the XB1 having about 12 mil. in a year is more like an utopia, but I would like to see that happening tho. Btw we're both brazilian so I guess we could talk in portuguese but whatever. salve

Well we could but I think that is still against rules (not sure if all foreign talk is bannable or just using it to curse and etc), and sure it would be great if X1X and some key titles for 2018 could make X1 sell over 12M, that would be a bigger achievement than Kinect (50% increase over the previous peak).



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

DonFerrari on 07 January 2018
LudicrousSpeed said:
Puppyroach said:

But the post I responded to had nothing to do with the number of quality releases, so what are you even responding to? The post stated that Xbox One lacked quality content, and I provided examples of quality content. If you instead want to turn it into a pissing contest over who has the most exclusives or the most quality releases per year, then you can raise that post seperately.

Not to mention the games you listed, MS had a hand in directly. Same with the Nintendo games he listed. But the Sony list is full of stuff like VR versions of already existing games and third party stuff like Hellblade, Persona, and Nier. Like you said, pissing contest nonsense lol.

Its also fucking hilarious to read how Microsoft is to blame for “reducing competition to a hardware arms race” when the Pro beat the Scorpio to market by a year, not to mention the extreme hyperbole we saw at launch of this gen regarding the PS4 power over Xbone.

Sony have ever talked about how much stronger they were than MS? All I can remember is MS PR saying no way in hell PS4 was 30% stronger than X1. So the guilty on HW power race for this gen falls on MS.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

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Puppyroach on 07 January 2018
DonFerrari said:
LudicrousSpeed said:

Not to mention the games you listed, MS had a hand in directly. Same with the Nintendo games he listed. But the Sony list is full of stuff like VR versions of already existing games and third party stuff like Hellblade, Persona, and Nier. Like you said, pissing contest nonsense lol.

Its also fucking hilarious to read how Microsoft is to blame for “reducing competition to a hardware arms race” when the Pro beat the Scorpio to market by a year, not to mention the extreme hyperbole we saw at launch of this gen regarding the PS4 power over Xbone.

Sony have ever talked about how much stronger they were than MS? All I can remember is MS PR saying no way in hell PS4 was 30% stronger than X1. So the guilty on HW power race for this gen falls on MS.

https://www.gamespot.com/articles/ps4-the-world-s-most-powerful-console-according-to/1100-6427532/ 

And I don´t blame Sony for doing it, performance is a big issue in the industry.



DonFerrari on 07 January 2018
Puppyroach said:
DonFerrari said:

Sony have ever talked about how much stronger they were than MS? All I can remember is MS PR saying no way in hell PS4 was 30% stronger than X1. So the guilty on HW power race for this gen falls on MS.

https://www.gamespot.com/articles/ps4-the-world-s-most-powerful-console-according-to/1100-6427532/ 

And I don´t blame Sony for doing it, performance is a big issue in the industry.

I didn't saw this Ad at the time.

The part I remember was just those "most powerful ever" that Sony used on launch of PS4 and Pro (as both Sony and MS used when launching first because being the only next gen it was obvious they were the most powerful).

But since reading the link, I'll change my phrase to Sony wasn't pushing a narrative of HW power arms race (nor is MS doing it with X1X to any special degree) the only bad point for MS on X1X is the lack of 1st party and on my opinion their E3 had that strange touch of showing unimpressive games as improved X1X versions, but atribute that to lack of material to work with.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

LudicrousSpeed on 07 January 2018
Errorist76 said:
Puppyroach said:

Exactly. I am not satisfied at all with the few releases that has come to XBox, but to say there is lack of quality content is just factually false and the video game industry has been a hardware arms race since the 80´s so I didn´t even understand what the purpose of the post in that regard was about :).

I’ll just leave this here.

http://www.metacritic.com/feature/best-video-games-of-2017?ref=hp

That’s a nice link but do you have anything actually relevant to his post? You do understand what he originally quoted and responded to, yes? You did read the very first sentence of his reply you just quoted, yes? I guess console warz are just too fun for some.



Eagle367 on 07 January 2018

I was agreeing with you but then you had to throw shade at Nintendo switch for some reason. A possibly 20 million selling console in one year is always a threat in my book



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yvanjean on 07 January 2018
DialgaMarine said:
I think people are knocking it’s numbers because 1) the X launched, and you would think new super powered hardware would give it a much bigger boost, and 2) a lot of the hardcore Xbox fans have been claiming power is the main driving force behind console sales, claiming it’s the main reason why PS4 has done so well. Yet, here we are with both the base PS4 and significantly weaker Nintendo Switch dominating the sales charts. I guess it’s more of an “I told you so” scenario, since said hardcore Xbox fans were claiming things would automatically turn around once X was out.

Man way to put words in Xbox fans mouth that would of never been said. We all know that compelling software is what pushed hardware sales. The Xbox one X resolve the power superiority that PS4 enjoyed most of this generation but considering that there are more OG Xbox one and Xbox one S, Sony still hold power superiority in most household. Your statement doesn't make any sense like if we would of all forgotten about what Nintendo did with the Wii and doing now with Switch. 

Your confusing so many different stage of the this current generation. Power being the main driving of this generation was when Xbox One and PS4 first launch, on top of that Xbox One had the Kinect bundle dragging them down and making the less powerful consoles more expensive. 

The Xbox one X doesn't turn around Microsoft fortune and make them this console generation winner, it a positive shift in the right direction. If Microsoft play there cards right I still think they can over take Sony in America and build from there has everyone is slowly getting ready for next gen. 

It will be interesting to see Sony response at E3 2018 will they show anything on the hardware side or simply focus on software lineup. I think that Sony might show a PS4 Pro Slim that rivals Xbox one X in power before we get PS5. But, Microsoft now having the most powerful consoles does give them better exposure has multi platform games run best on their console.