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vivster said:
We should probably mention that within the actual top 5 in the store are 3 PSN cards and 1 PSN plus cards. As well as two more PSN cards on rank 12 and 13. Which means that people bought a whole bunch of stuff on the PSN store that isn't tracked anywhere. The first cash card for the eShop is on rank 62 after numerous cards from Xbox and even one for Battle.net.

I think we should count those cards as well since they're the only thing for us to track the health of digital untracked games, which seem to do quite well.

This gives a much better overall picture. Digital psn sales are huge and make up a big part of the industry. Digital sales are also more profitable for console manufacturers as well as the game publishers as it cuts out costs including the retailer margins. 



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LudicrousSpeed said:
Nintendo really dominated the other two in software this year.

I hope you mean " dominated in arbitrary specific game releases" because if we take all of the software sold on each of the systems Nintendo is so far behind it's not even funny.



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vivster said:
LudicrousSpeed said:
Nintendo really dominated the other two in software this year.

I hope you mean " dominated in arbitrary specific game releases" because if we take all of the software sold on each of the systems Nintendo is so far behind it's not even funny.

As a studio, they absolutely did. Both commercially and critically. The downplaying is getting old. PSN cards? Really?



OTBWY said:
vivster said:

I hope you mean " dominated in arbitrary specific game releases" because if we take all of the software sold on each of the systems Nintendo is so far behind it's not even funny.

As a studio, they absolutely did. Both commercially and critically. The downplaying is getting old. PSN cards? Really?

They aren't a studio. They are as much a conglomerate with many different studios as Sony. Yes, their individual sales of physical games are not bad. I'm not downplaying their success, I just try to give a bit of contrast here so people won't start "upplaying" it.

I was merely pointing out that those physical sales do not paint the whole picture and there is a great number of games sold on the other platforms that are not tracked, shown by the huge amount of shop cards sold.

Truth is, especially in this forum, you really need downplaying when successes are constantly overstated and unequal comparisons are brought to paint achievements greater than they actually are. Might as well call the thread "best selling physical games" since digital is conveniently ignored to make the success seem greater.



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Kerotan said:
Just shows how amazon favours Nintendo as sales are not accurately reflected in the npd.


Pretty much this.



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Kerotan said:
Just shows how amazon favours Nintendo as sales are not accurately reflected in the npd.

Amazon is more important than NPD, just like COMG is more important than Media Create/Famitsu



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Seems that Nintendo is dominating the physical sales, sad that NPD don't count that digital sales for Nintendo, so we don't know the real picture to USA (digital + physical).
Do you guys think that Mario Odyssey or Mario Kart could be top 10 in NPD if consider digital sales too? Zelda already is without digital.



zorg1000 said:
Kerotan said:
Just shows how amazon favours Nintendo as sales are not accurately reflected in the npd.

Amazon is more important than NPD, just like COMG is more important than Media Create/Famitsu

More important, as in more accurate?



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vivster said:
OTBWY said:

As a studio, they absolutely did. Both commercially and critically. The downplaying is getting old. PSN cards? Really?

They aren't a studio. They are as much a conglomerate with many different studios as Sony. Yes, their individual sales of physical games are not bad. I'm not downplaying their success, I just try to give a bit of contrast here so people won't start "upplaying" it.

I was merely pointing out that those physical sales do not paint the whole picture and there is a great number of games sold on the other platforms that are not tracked, shown by the huge amount of shop cards sold.

Truth is, especially in this forum, you really need downplaying when successes are constantly overstated and unequal comparisons are brought to paint achievements greater than they actually are. Might as well call the thread "best selling physical games" since digital is conveniently ignored to make the success seem greater.

LOL. Let's not play a silly semantics game. They have in-house divisions, part of what is a studio. They aren't a conglomerate as Sony as they have their hand in different businesses and subsidiaries, but this is a widely different debate. Not the same thing. It is all about Nintendo's in-house, first party games. Which dominated.

The PSN card argument is silly, since all online platforms allow paypal, or debit or creditcard purchase options. So it's in no way a reliable means of tracking digital. We do however have certain games with both retail and digital sales included. It's not a end all be all way of determining digital sales, and thus the amount of sales of what PSN cards could bring through Amazon purchases.

The last paragraph is funny, since this only comes from you when it's Nintendo.




zorg1000 said:
Kerotan said:
Just shows how amazon favours Nintendo as sales are not accurately reflected in the npd.

Amazon is more important than NPD, just like COMG is more important than Media Create/Famitsu

NPD is just a battle, Amazon is the war.