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Forums - Movies & TV - The Fans Have Spoken, Last Jedi Drops A Massive 68%

Also of note, TLJ will fall behind Jurassic World sometime this week, even though after Week 3 it was still ~$22M ahead of it. It also looks like if weak legs continue, it will have to crawl its way into the Top 5, just beating The Avengers. Granted, adjusted for ticket price inflation, Avengers would remain on top. Still, even without adjusting, Avengers easily beats it WW. On a more positive note, it did just make it into the Top 10 WW.

Of course, after JW2 and Avengers:IW, it could very well just be kicked right back out of both of those lists.



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https://screenrant.com/star-wars-last-jedi-top-10-grossing-films/ The people have spoken indeed, couldnt have hated it to much for it break into the top 10.



xenogears1234 said:
https://screenrant.com/star-wars-last-jedi-top-10-grossing-films/ The people have spoken indeed, couldnt have hated it to much for it break into the top 10.

Loved it so much it's legs in the past week or two have been worse than RO, a spin off. You guys can put your blinders on and look at that final number in a little bubble all you want, but that's not how the world works. And that's definitely not how Disney is looking at it.  They were expecting to storm that list and easily take 4th. But, they had to crawl in there, most likely stopping at 9th, to possibly to be kicked back out by the end of this year.

$730M+ and 35%+ down is definitely not where they wanted it to go. The backlash was real.  



thismeintiel said:
xenogears1234 said:
https://screenrant.com/star-wars-last-jedi-top-10-grossing-films/ The people have spoken indeed, couldnt have hated it to much for it break into the top 10.

Loved it so much it's legs in the past week or two have been worse than RO, a spin off. You guys can put your blinders on and look at that final number in a little bubble all you want, but that's not how the world works. And that's definitely not how Disney is looking at it.  They were expecting to storm that list and easily take 4th. But, they had to crawl in there, most likely stopping at 9th, to possibly to be kicked back out by the end of this year.

$730M+ and 35%+ down is definitely not where they wanted it to go. The backlash was real.  

Yes a movie that broke more a billion in profit and who's entire business model fyi is to sell merchandise is an epic fail and oh no whatever will disney do.  Lol get over yourself, fans like you are why people look down on nerd/geek culture.  You can never be happy unless your complaining about something that everyone else for the most part is enjoying.  Although it makes sense if your one of those gamergate dudebros...in which case that would explain this massive thread and your anger towards this stuff.

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Another interesting fact I forgot to mention is theater count declines. It really just stresses how poor the legs are. This weekend was I guess the first official weekend you could drop screenings, at least according to BOM. It seems they did the same for TFA and RO. My son's theater actually dropped it from 5-6 screens to just 2 last weekend.

Anyway, TFA opened on 4,134 screens. In its 5th weekend, it dropped to 3,822. That's a decline of 312, or 7.5%. RO started on 4,157 screens. In its 5th weekend, it dropped to 3,162. That's a decline of 995, or 23.9%. That's a pretty bad decline, but a little understandable, as it's a spinoff, not a main entry. Now, we get to TLJ. It opens with 4,232 screens. It just dropped to 3,090. That's a decline of 1,142, or 27%.

I'm kinda wondering if it'll even get the full 20 weeks like TFA and RO got.



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xenogears1234 said:
thismeintiel said:

Loved it so much it's legs in the past week or two have been worse than RO, a spin off. You guys can put your blinders on and look at that final number in a little bubble all you want, but that's not how the world works. And that's definitely not how Disney is looking at it.  They were expecting to storm that list and easily take 4th. But, they had to crawl in there, most likely stopping at 9th, to possibly to be kicked back out by the end of this year.

$730M+ and 35%+ down is definitely not where they wanted it to go. The backlash was real.  

Yes a movie that broke more a billion in profit and who's entire business model fyi is to sell merchandise is an epic fail and oh no whatever will disney do.  Lol get over yourself, fans like you are why people look down on nerd/geek culture.  You can never be happy unless your complaining about something that everyone else for the most part is enjoying.  Although it makes sense if your one of those gamergate dudebros...in which case that would explain this massive thread and your anger towards this stuff.

I'm not going to address your ad hominem attack. Though, I do want to say, you really should look into the thing you're talking about before you speak. $1B in profit? Hardly. This movie must have at least cost the same as TFA, $275M. Personally, I wouldn't be surprised if it cost $300M.  To make that back, Disney needs to make double that, as theaters get half of that. Then, you have the marketing budget. Something I'm sure they paid a pretty penny for. Wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't $100M-$150M.  So, to break even this film had to, more than likely, make $800M-$900M.

So, did it make a profit, yes. $1B? Hell no. They'll probably end up making ~$200M off of the film. Of course, no one argued that this movie was a flop. Only if you are reaching for straws do you need to even imply someone did. No, the real point is that this film has been a disappointment, and a fan backlash is apparent. It's profit pales in comparison to the ~$610M they made off of the first. Or even ~$450M-$500M they figured was in the bag for this one. And to top it all off, it's going to have lasting effects on the future movies, as Disney plans to milk this franchise as much as they can before they run her into the ground. There's already reports that they expect Solo to not perform well.  And unless Ep 9 is great, I wouldn't be surprised if it opens lower than $200M.  Theaters are also going to be less willing to devote so much screen real estate if they are just going to perform poorly after a couple of weeks. Might have to cut that guarantee from 4 weeks to 3. Or theaters can ask for bigger cuts sooner than normal. 

I'd also check user reviews around the web if you honestly think the vast majority enjoyed this film. 

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xenogears1234 said:
thismeintiel said:

Loved it so much it's legs in the past week or two have been worse than RO, a spin off. You guys can put your blinders on and look at that final number in a little bubble all you want, but that's not how the world works. And that's definitely not how Disney is looking at it.  They were expecting to storm that list and easily take 4th. But, they had to crawl in there, most likely stopping at 9th, to possibly to be kicked back out by the end of this year.

$730M+ and 35%+ down is definitely not where they wanted it to go. The backlash was real.  

Yes a movie that broke more a billion in profit and who's entire business model fyi is to sell merchandise is an epic fail and oh no whatever will disney do.  Lol get over yourself, fans like you are why people look down on nerd/geek culture.  You can never be happy unless your complaining about something that everyone else for the most part is enjoying.  Although it makes sense if your one of those gamergate dudebros...in which case that would explain this massive thread and your anger towards this stuff.

He Right though man. It's down 35% and post first weekend right at rogue one levels. Despite only having competition from jumanji in the last month. If the bleeding stops and all main installments do 1.35 million than that's fine but if future installments continue the drop it's a real problem.



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Anyone who thinks Disney is only taking home $200 million from The Last Jedi .... lol I've got a bridge and some fairy powder to sell you, I'll even give you a discount.

Like ok you're "outraged" with the new Star Wars, my counter to that would be "so what?". Like really, so what? Like TLJ people who don't like the film act like they're some unique crowd. You're not. Take a ticket and go stand at the back of a very long line please.

Every Star Wars movie since the OT has had very vocal backlash, with The Phantom Menace getting the worst of it. So hey, welcome to the party, you're only 18 years late, wanna play some Nintendo 64? 

Disney got an absolute steal on Star Wars for $4 billion and are going to make mountains of money off the franchise and there's going to be 20 more Star Wars movies in your life time.

This trilogy is far outgrossing the prequels too, TFA inflation adjusted easily beats TPM, TLJ easily beats AOTC box office wise, Episode IX will beat Revenge of the Sith easily. You'll never match the OT, but that doesn't mean the franchise is in any danger. That's a load of bull shit plain and simple.



Soundwave said:

Anyone who thinks Disney is only taking home $200 million from The Last Jedi .... lol I've got a bridge and some fairy powder to sell you, I'll even give you a discount.

Like ok you're "outraged" with the new Star Wars, my counter to that would be "so what?". Like really, so what? Like TLJ people who don't like the film act like they're some unique crowd. You're not. Take a ticket and go stand at the back of a very long line please.

Every Star Wars movie since the OT has had very vocal backlash, with The Phantom Menace getting the worst of it. So hey, welcome to the party, you're only 18 years late, wanna play some Nintendo 64? 

Disney got an absolute steal on Star Wars for $4 billion and are going to make mountains of money off the franchise and there's going to be 20 more Star Wars movies in your life time.

This trilogy is far outgrossing the prequels too, TFA inflation adjusted easily beats TPM, TLJ easily beats AOTC box office wise, Episode IX will beat Revenge of the Sith easily. You'll never match the OT, but that doesn't mean the franchise is in any danger. That's a load of bull shit plain and simple.

Acting like the movie is better than the prequels is not going to save it. The movie is hated, literally, even worse than TPM.

 

We are going to see the bigger effect of that in the next episode. Not now.



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Last Jedi shouldn't have worse legs than jumanji.



Halo MCC will sell 5+ million copies(including digital)

halo 5 will sell 10 million copies(including digital)

x1 will pass ps4 in USA, and UK.