| Cerebralbore101 said: Without spoiling anything, what was so bad about this movie? I haven't seen it yet. |
Nothing. Star Wars fans are just retarded
Mr.GameCrazy said:
Can you not do that? Just because Goodnightmoon likes The Last Jedi doesn't mean he's not a "real fan." I thought being a fan of Star Wars simply meant that you like Star Wars. |
I love Star Wars since I was a kid, I have seen the original trilogy many times, Episode V is one of my favourite movies ever, but I'm not a real SW fan for liking this movie... ok, whatever they say, I hated Episode I and II, I wasn't a big fan of episode III but I didn't hated it as much, I don't think Episode VI is a masterpiece as many fans say and I believe Rogue One was just OK, good story but poor directon and questionable casting, so I don't think I'm a SW fanboy either, I just genuinaly belive The Last Jedi was fantastic, not perfect, but really good.
I liked it a lot myself, if I'm not a "real fan" because of that then oh well 
| hudsoniscool said: After seeing the Monday-Thursday drops I posted on a Star Wars forum that it would do 72millon. I feel like projections for Sunday could be a couple million low but idk.
I am happy to see it perform porely post initial weekend. I don't want Rian Johnson getting his own trilogy doing whatever he wants. He already ruined my hype for the saga movies going forward. I hope Disney sees how porely it performs and pulls it out from under him. I'm hoping for under 600 million domestic and under 1.25 million global. Sounds like great numbers but this movie should have been capable of hitting 700-850 million domestic and 1.7 billion WW.
It should get a good boost for the next 2 weeks though. It's fallen right to rogue one levels, and that got some really good boosts for these next 2 weeks(they came out one day apart on calander). I anticipate that it will do a little lower than rogue one during that time frame. I honestly think if that happens it will put a nail in rian Johnsons trilogy(thank the gods).
I think Disney will freak out internally with 600 domestic and 1.25 billion WW. Sounds really good but that's approaching a 50% drop from TFA. What happens after that 800milliom global for the next spinoff and 1 billion for EP9? Than what after that? It's obvious that disneys hope is to do a Star Wars movie every year, with that I'm sure they are asking this question after every release: did this movie strengthen the brand(or keep at same levels) or did this movie weekend the brand. If a movie weekens their brand than it's a failure. |
If I read right, Rian is only writing and directing the first movie in his new trilogy. It's possible that someone else will take over for the 2nd and 3rd movie in the trilogy.
Mr.GameCrazy said:
Can you not do that? Just because Goodnightmoon likes The Last Jedi doesn't mean he's not a "real fan." I thought being a fan of Star Wars simply meant that you like Star Wars. |
He seems more like a Disney/Marvel fan than a Star Wars fan.
He did not like any of the old characters, nor the universe.
Star Wars always was a mythological tale about the Force, the Jedi in a sci-fi setting..... Now it's being shown as a poor action movie with "mom jokes".
| VGPolyglot said: I liked it a lot myself, if I'm not a "real fan" because of that then oh well |
I guess I'm not a "real fan" for liking The Last Jedi either. I personally like all of the Star Wars movies.
Mr.GameCrazy said:
I guess I'm not a "real fan" for liking The Last Jedi either. I personally like all of the Star Wars movies. |
Fan of star wars hates the last Jedi because of what they did to Luke, the jedis, the mythological aspect of the saga.
Fans of good and logical plots don't like the Last Jedi because its story is very poor and make no sense.
The whole story could have been ended at any moment by a FO ship going into lightspeed and cutting the escape of the rebels. It made zero sense.
shikamaru317 said:
Yep. Colin Trevorrow dropped out after Disney had the script that Colin and Derek Connolly wrote together rewritten by Jack Thorne because they didn't like it. Then the script got rewritten again by JJ and Chris Terrio after JJ was made director. Yes, that's right, Chris Terrio, the Justice League and Batman vs. Superman writer is co-writing episode 9 |
And to think that Disney loved TLJ SO much, they okayed a separate trilogy for Rian to write and direct on his own? Again, there's the arrogance that I spoke of above. I know exactly what they thought. "Well, we got the nerds no matter what we put onscreen. We'll make it just like a Marvel movie, only with a weaker plot, so we get even more general public and kids in the theatres. And thanks to all of those cute animals, our toy sales should skyrocket." I think they may be rethinking that right now.
Mar1217 said:
That would have work if the movie was called "Spaceballs 2" |
Lol, certain parts of this movie felt like that. Hell, Luke throwing the lightsaber over his shoulder felt like it was straight out of a blooper reel where Mark Hamill was just goofing off.
| tinfamous12 said: The general public will still make this film a blockbuster. Film studios don't care about a 'core fanbase', they care about the name recognition and how many gp's they can put in those seats. Either way, I haven't heard anything bad about the movie, everyone's said it was amazing. |
Maybe you missed the OP, but it just dropped 69%. That's pretty unprecedented. Even blockbusters that fail at the box office usually drop 55%-60%. Sure, this movie is going to make its money back, mainly due to a hyped up opening weekend, but it is going to fail to bring in the profit like TFA did. That movie did over $2B. This one isn't even coming close to that. I'm not even sure $1.5B is in its future. If this continues, it's going to struggle to hit $600M, might even struggle to hit $550M, in the US. In comparison, TFA did $937M in the US. So, unless the other countries do some really heavy lifting, I don't see this doing much beyond $1B. To do only 50%-60% of what TFA is just god awful. Even more so when you consider they were only behind TFA's WW weekend by ~$80M. Now they are more than likely down ~$250M, maybe more, in just another week.
So, yea, they need that core fanbase, especially when its as large as the one SW has. They also need the good word of mouth and repeat viewings that comes from that fanbase.
Lucas-Rio said:
Fan of star wars hates the last Jedi because of what they did to Luke, the jedis, the mythological aspect of the saga. Fans of good and logical plots don't like the Last Jedi because its story is very poor and make no sense. The whole story could have been ended at any moment by a FO ship going into lightspeed and cutting the escape of the rebels. It made zero sense. |
Are you saying I'm wrong for liking The Last Jedi?
I don't have a massive hatred for that side-plot that most do, it wasn't good but it wasn't so insanely bad I wanted to die. I also didn't find the humour to be annoying. But several points that have large impacts on the future of the series were terribly handled.
The movie wasn't bad if you ignore some plot holes, the bigger issue is the mishandling of established stories and characters, including characters introduced in the force awakens. This is what can happen when a movie trilogy isn't planned out before hand and the second entry is given to an entirely different writer/director. Hell they had to change TFA's ending slightly because Rian Johnson wanted to do something different with Luke that didn't fit with it.
It doesnt feel planned, it feels like someone just takes over and makes it up as they go along, which isn't how something planned as a trilogy from the get go should happen.
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I have almost no hope left for episode 9 at this point. Here's hoping the Han Solo and Obi-Wan anthology movies are good at least. 
