Its Star Wars. People who love TLJ will see it several times in the cinema and people who hate it will only watch it maybe 3 times in the cinema... Its the most popular thing in existence and we are getting a movie in the franchise every year for many, many years to come. Star Wars is the reason the world is still spinning.

What is this? The term "SJW" was being used in 1980? I doubt that highly.

Of course no, it's a parody, but it feels damn credible watching the reactions of TLD

If that's what you want to take my post go ahead. My entire post was about how it's trending at or about to be trending lower than rogue one. 

But if u want to go there than sure. My comparison is about the United States box office. Star Wars is bigger as a brand than avatar, Jurassic park, and the avengers. Force awakens showed that. 

I went and saw it. It wasn't really worth it. It was better and more coherent than the prequel movies for sure, but there are lingering problems. 

1. Some of the actors like Finn's love interest, the suicidal admiral lady, and Mrs. Giant Nose were awful, or badly cast. Finn's love interest (whatever her name is), had the most awkward and flat introduction scene. Suicidal Admiral Lady (whatever her name is), just felt like an office manager trying to act. Nose lady was too ugly for film, and hence poorly cast. 

2. Why the hell is the Republic on the run from "The First Order"? They beat the Empire 30 years ago. It was a deciding victory. When RotJ ends the Empire's entire fleet is pretty much wiped out. The movie fails to explain where The First Order, or Snoke came from. This could be fixed in the final movie, but I'm not sure if they'll get around to it. 

3. Why does Luke want the Jedi to die out? Another thing the next movie needs to answer. 

4. The whole "I know we're on the run from the Empire, but let's just take a small craft to a casino planet, and hope the First Order doesn't notice us escape and return", thing was a pretty big plothole. 

5. If ramming the main enemy ship would have won the battle, then why not just put a single pilot in the Mon Cal cruiser, and do that all along? 

6. 100 tits lady was cringy and that micro-scene should have been left on the cutting room floor. 

7. The chase sequence with the racing dog things didn't make any sense. They are powerful enough to barrel through rock solid walls, but the people riding them don't get hurt or knocked off? What? 

Now for the things it did right...

1. Having Rylo kill Snoke in order to succeed him makes perfect sense. I did not see it coming, but that's actually how Sith Apprentice/Master relationships work. In order to become a master the apprentice has to kill his master. 

2. Having Luke use a force projection to fake out Rylo was great. That shoulder brush was hilarious. 

3. Adam Driver isn't a skinny little kid anymore. Having Rylo be this skinny little dweeb as a Sith just didn't make sense. It's like when the kid from That 70's Show was cast as Venom in Spiderman 3. It just doesn't work. 

Overall I give it 2.5/5, with the ability to be a solid 3/5 if the following movie answers lingering questions. It's really hard to judge the middle movie to an intended trilogy. Empire Strikes Back had a lot of issues until RotJ answered and completed the story. 

Reread the bold.

Exactly.  And if you want to adjust it to ticket price inflation, it made $704M in the US.  $877M if you include rereleases.  It did around $597M in the foreign market, for a WW total of $1.3B, if you don't include rereleases.  Can this movie match that?  Maybe.  Of course, ESB came out at a time when the foreign market was nowhere near as expansive as it is, now.  So, even if it matches that it will still be a disappointment, with how many extra markets it launched in and when we compare it to the $2B TFA made, which showed the potential of a SW in this expanded market.

Not WW it didn't.  And $19M isn't exactly substantial.  It's not like the 100's of millions this movie isn't going to make compared to TFA.

What I find hilarious is that not a single person who claims to really like/love this film will address one of its larger plotholes.  I have asked 3 of those people here to answer and they don't reply.  It's exactly like I said.  There is no answer for it and they are afraid to dwell on it for too long for fear it will ruin a movie they feel the need to love.  I guess cause it's Star Wars?

When we reach the point where the largest film franchise in history is compared to others, since it might still be able to match them and we can still say it is a success, when we already have a new Star Wars movie to compare it to, it's reaching madness.  But, if you want to compare it to something else big like Avengers, if it was a good movie this should have had no problem reaching $1.8M.  You see, that would be an 8% drop.  The same one Avenger:AOU saw from the first Avengers.  Unfortunately for it, it was not a good movie, so we are looking at a much steeper drop.  There's a good shot that it won't even hit Avengers:AOU's $1.4B, which itself would have been a 70% drop.

There is something for you op

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/showdowns/chart/?view=daily&id=roguevforce.htm

Me and the OP disagree about Xbox/Sony stuff but not on this topic at all lol.

A lot of people make it out like this movie was going to have a massive drop off compared to TFA but it shouldn't be a 600million dropoff. This should have done 1.7ish billion if the film was liked by all. I think the avengers comparisons are pretty translatable here as well. It won't make as much as infinity war globally and depending on how these next 2 days go I might even say IW will do better domestically. Getting the guardians in there really help though they are like a seperate franchise.

@ bold

Yea, lol.  We'll have to focus on this moment of solidarity during the bad times.

It definitely will be interesting to see how IW does.  If it's really good and doesn't have a bunch of jarring comedy, I can see it definitely outdoing this film.  Heck, even if it just matches the 2nd Avengers, there is a possibility that it outdoes this film, depending on how TLJ drops in future weekends.

Thanks, man.  I put it in the OP.

What I really worry about is the Han Solo movie. I'm excited for it but I know a lot people don't want this movie. If it was really good and releasing in a good window it could hit 475 million domestic possibly over 500 but it would have to be great for that. The massive problem right now is it's window.

Avengers comes out 4 weeks earlier. It's going to pull at least 500 million domestic and on the week of solo it should do about 40 million. These tentpoll movies pull away grosses from later films because a lot of people can't simply afford to go to the movies every month.

The week after release deadpool comes out. In not sure what's going on with the Disney deal, I know it's not a done deal yet but will it be by may? 🤔 regardless if it keeps that slot DP2 is a 350 million dollar movie maybe more.

Week after that oceans 8 comes out. It's a sequel to oceans 11, 12, and 13. Each one of those made 100 million. Also remember a cast member for solo is calling the movie a gangster movie which is similar to this. Will also take away from the female audience.

The following week the incredibles 2 releases. (Doesn't Disney own this one too? What they doing). This is the biggest Pixar sequel besides finding dory and toy 3 in more than a decade. It's a 300-400 million movie too. And going to pull away the kids from solo.

The week after that is jurrasic world 2. It's the sequel to a 600 million dollar movie... nuff said.

So as you can see the legs for it will be chopped out from under it every single week. If it or ther movies don't move around it will not make 400 million in the states. Disney needs to push it out to June-August or move both deadpool 2 and incredibles 2.