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Forums - Sales - PS4 Pro sold 500k in total in Japan, PS4 close to hitting 6m

DonFerrari on 22 December 2017
OTBWY said:
Ruler said:

So what? And PS4 is outselling the Switch globally in current sales.

This topic is about Japan, but if we are talking about globally: the Switch is tracking pretty well first year aligned with the PS4. Never speak too early.

But you did



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

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OTBWY on 22 December 2017
DonFerrari said:
OTBWY said:

This topic is about Japan, but if we are talking about globally: the Switch is tracking pretty well first year aligned with the PS4. Never speak too early.

But you did

The Switch is already at 3 million. The numbers in Japan are much more predictable now.



DonFerrari on 22 December 2017
OTBWY said:
DonFerrari said:

But you did

The Switch is already at 3 million. The numbers in Japan are much more predictable now.

I was talking about you have said "don't say to soon", so you said "to soon" on that.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

OTBWY on 22 December 2017
DonFerrari said:
OTBWY said:

The Switch is already at 3 million. The numbers in Japan are much more predictable now.

I was talking about you have said "don't say to soon", so you said "to soon" on that.

You're silly.



DonFerrari on 22 December 2017
OTBWY said:
DonFerrari said:

I was talking about you have said "don't say to soon", so you said "to soon" on that.

You're silly.

sure thing



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

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_Dog_ on 22 December 2017

Seems like the Switch will overtake the PS4 in short time.



Ruler on 22 December 2017
OTBWY said:
Ruler said:

Too early? The PS4 has outsold the switch in almost every week in 2017, in its first year the console wasnt even out in Japan unlike the Switch. And its not even clear if the Switch can outsell the PS4+vita combined in Japan too, thats over 12 million, i doubt the switch can reach that in a view years.

The PS4 released about three months later in Japan. A full year is blatantly false.

To compare the sales now, between to two consoles that released so far apart from each other, is stupid. You can only align YoY and we don't know how the Switch is going to sell in 4 years. Could be better than PS4 or it could not. 

"And its not even clear if the Switch can outsell the PS4+vita combined in Japan too, thats over 12 million, i doubt the switch can reach that in a view years."

It's selling way faster. It's actually tracking about the same as the 3DS there which is at over 20 million. The Vita ain't selling anymore, and the PS4 is selling so-so in Japan. So to presume that the Switch won't pass 12 million in a few years is laughable. Even if the PS4 sells about the same YoY in Japan, let's say 3 million extra, the Switch will most definitely outsell it combined. Globally, too early to say.

Yeah but the 3DS+Wii U only did 26 million combined, 3DS was released in 2011 in Japan thats a long time for even getting it to 20 million. And it was in a time when mobile wasnt as big in Japan as it is now.



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TheBraveGallade on 22 December 2017
Ruler said:
OTBWY said:

The PS4 released about three months later in Japan. A full year is blatantly false.

To compare the sales now, between to two consoles that released so far apart from each other, is stupid. You can only align YoY and we don't know how the Switch is going to sell in 4 years. Could be better than PS4 or it could not. 

"And its not even clear if the Switch can outsell the PS4+vita combined in Japan too, thats over 12 million, i doubt the switch can reach that in a view years."

It's selling way faster. It's actually tracking about the same as the 3DS there which is at over 20 million. The Vita ain't selling anymore, and the PS4 is selling so-so in Japan. So to presume that the Switch won't pass 12 million in a few years is laughable. Even if the PS4 sells about the same YoY in Japan, let's say 3 million extra, the Switch will most definitely outsell it combined. Globally, too early to say.

Yeah but the 3DS+Wii U only did 26 million combined, 3DS was released in 2011 in Japan thats a long time for even getting it to 20 million. And it was in a time when mobile wasnt as big in Japan as it is now.

Are... you serious?

20 milion is a number equal to 20% of japan's total POPULATION. Granted lots of people bought replacements upgrades or duplicates, but still. For all its glory the DS sold 30 milion in japan. Switch selling wiiU+3DS numbers in japan means basically every household that has a decent interest in gaming will have one.

 

Back to the ps4, its doing well considering that its not a console that appeals to the japanese that much. The ps2 was the last time japan really loved a home console. The ps3 was fine, but considering it had actual two sided competition (the 360 actually DID something to attract the japanese)



Ruler on 23 December 2017
TheBraveGallade said:
Ruler said:

Yeah but the 3DS+Wii U only did 26 million combined, 3DS was released in 2011 in Japan thats a long time for even getting it to 20 million. And it was in a time when mobile wasnt as big in Japan as it is now.

Are... you serious?

20 milion is a number equal to 20% of japan's total POPULATION. Granted lots of people bought replacements upgrades or duplicates, but still. For all its glory the DS sold 30 milion in japan. Switch selling wiiU+3DS numbers in japan means basically every household that has a decent interest in gaming will have one.

 

Back to the ps4, its doing well considering that its not a console that appeals to the japanese that much. The ps2 was the last time japan really loved a home console. The ps3 was fine, but considering it had actual two sided competition (the 360 actually DID something to attract the japanese)

Like i mentioned before this was 2011, its no guarantee that the same sales number will repeat itself in 2019, but rather another decline



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