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Could Sony make a successful Switch ?

Yes 25 14.37%
 
No 83 47.70%
 
Depends on many things 62 35.63%
 
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Lawlight said:
Think of it this way:

PS4 : sold 70M so far
PS4 with play on the go option: Will it sell less than 70M?

Yeah, but PS5 won't have a play on the go option because Sony is dumb.



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Nintendo pulled Switch off, because they had multiple things going for them:

a) Nintendo is going all in with game production with Switch being the only system they have in the future (3DS is supported as outgoing system). This was possible because WiiU was a dud and 3DS is at end of life. If Sony does something like that, they had to wait until end-of-life for PS4 and they are risking all on it, while a normal PS5 would probably similarly successful.

b) Switch was a step-up in power, because WiiU was comparatively weak and it was possible with mobile specs to outdo this. I don't see any mobile system with acceptable price could outdo PS4 (or even more: Pro). So if Sony does that, the system would be weaker, which would take away from the perceived value. People would stay with the PS4, because it has an established library and is more powerful.

c) Switch is less powerful than Xbox One and PS4, but close enough that it doesn't matter in eyes of many gamers. Look at Skyrim and Doom for examples, that the games are possible and the graphical downgrades are acceptable tradeoffs for portability. This was only possible because of the mid-gen release. Earlier this wasn't possible for the price and some time later people would expect a step up in power expecting the next generation. But as PS5 and nextbox are still far away most people don't compare with their expectations for next gen. If Sony does a hybrid as replacement of PS4, then people would expect a generational step in power.

d) As WiiU was a dud and 3DS nearing end of life, the risk to compete with own machines was small. If Sony concentrated on a hybrid alone it would be a tremendous risk. If they magically would produce a hybrid that magically can play PS4-games at the same power it would make the PS4 obsolete. But that seems technically impossible. Mostly because a mobile console wouldn't be able to work with optical discs and probably with other chips. If they make a console that is similar in power but incompatible to PS4 games, the two devices would compete and eat into each others market. If they make it only portable, the markets would no longer overlap, but it loses the desirability the Switch has.



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Player2 said:
Lawlight said:
Think of it this way:

PS4 : sold 70M so far
PS4 with play on the go option: Will it sell less than 70M?

Yeah, but PS5 won't have a play on the go option because Sony is dumb.

Dumbest thing they could do is make it a portable and gymp the hardware.  

They would lose half their audience if not more.



This misinterpretation is spreading quite well...



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MrRoops said:
Player2 said:

Yeah, but PS5 won't have a play on the go option because Sony is dumb.

Dumbest thing they could do is make it a portable and gymp the hardware.  

They would lose half their audience if not more.

Tell that to Lawlight.



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EricHiggin said:

If PS has any chance of creating a portable/hybrid that plays console games, their best chance is explained in this article.

https://www.kitguru.net/components/cpu/anton-shilov/amd-delays-introduction-of-k12-based-processors-to-2017/

It talks about AMD's x86 Zen and ARM K12 processors being developed together with high compatibility. It also mentions a potential K12 APU, with two cores and a 'next gen' GCN arch (Vega?). The biggest thing is that this APU is supposed to be around 02w TDP, which is insanely low. If this is true it may not be all that impossible for PS to do it from a hardware standpoint. If the compatibility is there, then software shouldn't be too much of an issue either. I've been waiting to hear more about K12 after AMD went dark with it right around the time that Ryzen launched. Most recent articles I can find say K12 was supposed to launch sometime in 2017, but AMD seems to be keeping quiet.

If PS could create a PS5 portable/hybrid using K12 and have PS5 using Ryzen, with both using future Radeon GPU tech, it could work. Not to mention if they could achieve PS4 BC for all PS5 hardware.

With 500$ price point and 1.5 hours battery life? Possible, yes. Sell good? Nope



Player2 said:
Lawlight said:
Think of it this way:

PS4 : sold 70M so far
PS4 with play on the go option: Will it sell less than 70M?

Yeah, but PS5 won't have a play on the go option because Sony is dumb.

Yeah because they were so dumb to not include that in the PS4, right?



Player2 said:
MrRoops said:

Dumbest thing they could do is make it a portable and gymp the hardware.  

They would lose half their audience if not more.

Tell that to Lawlight.

Tell me what? You disagreed with him in your previous post and now you’re acting like you’re in agreement with him?



Of course it would succeed but it just wont be as successful as a powerful home console. If its their only system, the PlayStation fans will have no choice but to buy it. The vita failed because sony killed it. But if the hybrid their only gaming system on the market, all the sony first party studios will develop games for it and it will still have all the third party games. No third party can ignore sony only system, not even rockstar.



Nintendo owns Japan market which is the biggest for portable market, Sony owns Europe and XBox has been strongest in USA. Trying to win Nintendo in Japan is a tall order, so I dont think Sony would go there.