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Zkuq on 11 January 2018
TalonMan said:
Zkuq said:

Having to put a date at all for games without an exact date is a bit stupid though, but whatever.

MANY of the tools need to be upgraded and/or enhanced - there's only so much one person can do, at one time though...   ...either that, or we'd still be waiting for the database to come online - and it might be another year, before we'd actually ever see it by the time I get every minor detail worked out.  :(

I'd say - this is the kind of thing to suggest in the 'database suggestion' thread...

I know, I know...  I sort of don't want to bug you because I know you've got so much work already, but at the same time, adding it as a side note to a post I was going to make anyway was just so easy. I'll post it to the suggestions thread though!



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Zkuq on 11 January 2018

For release details, what's the difference between XBL DLC and plain DLC? Why is there no such option for other platforms, such as PlayStation? Is there a point to all these options? Should there be more options or should they be combined under one general DLC label?

I also asked this in the issues/suggestions thread because I think this needs a technical solution as well, but for now, I just want instructions. What do Direct Download and Online mean, what's their difference, and what's their relation to Steam? For example, if a game has been published (without a physical release, as is common for PC titles) on multiple download services (e.g. Steam, GOG, Origin, uPlay), what would I choose as the distribution method?

TalonMan said:

Well - you know the deal, though. If you make it a 'side comment' just to stay out of the way, it's quite likely to get lost and never looked at...  :(

...posting in that other thread though (regardless of how small you think the fixsuggestion might be), it's at least GUARANTEED to get looked at and considered for implementation and, most importantly, make it onto our fix spreadsheet. If an item doesn't get on to that sheet, it's unlikely to ever get worked on.

And this is exactly the kind of thing that, even though it's small, definitely ought to be cleaned up!!

I know this is how it is... But still! Anyway, I'll try to improve by habits though!



Zkuq on 11 January 2018
TalonMan said:
Zkuq said:

For release details, what's the difference between XBL DLC and plain DLC? Why is there no such option for other platforms, such as PlayStation? Is there a point to all these options? Should there be more options or should they be combined under one general DLC label?

I also asked this in the issues/suggestions thread because I think this needs a technical solution as well, but for now, I just want instructions. What do Direct Download and Online mean, what's their difference, and what's their relation to Steam? For example, if a game has been published (without a physical release, as is common for PC titles) on multiple download services (e.g. Steam, GOG, Origin, uPlay), what would I choose as the distribution method?

You're referring to the Distribution field in the Add/Edit Release section - honestly, I wouldn't worry too much about the details in there. This is something that was carried over for Machina from the "Pro" section, as his charting tools require understanding what is "Retail" and what is "Digital" - those drop-down options came from that part of the site.

You'll note the information isn't really displayed anywhere on the game page (other than if you come into this option, to edit) - so I would just say, unless you know for sure a game is a "Retail" distribution, I wouldn't even bother with the field (we're perfectly fine with having it left blank). If Machina needs it set to something specific, he may do so himself...  :)

Oh, I see. In that case, you might want to add a disclaimer there at some point - or better, make the extra choices available only for users that need them.  The field could probably be reduced to "Retail: Yes/No/Unknown" or something similar. I'll post this in the suggestions thread as well though.

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Zkuq on 11 January 2018

Continuation to another thread:

TalonMan said:
Zkuq said:

For release details, what's the difference between XBL DLC and plain DLC? Why is there no such option for other platforms, such as PlayStation? Is there a point to all these options? Should there be more options or should they be combined under one general DLC label?

I also asked this in the issues/suggestions thread because I think this needs a technical solution as well, but for now, I just want instructions. What do Direct Download and Online mean, what's their difference, and what's their relation to Steam? For example, if a game has been published (without a physical release, as is common for PC titles) on multiple download services (e.g. Steam, GOG, Origin, uPlay), what would I choose as the distribution method?

You're referring to the Distribution field in the Add/Edit Release section - honestly, I wouldn't worry too much about the details in there. This is something that was carried over for Machina from the "Pro" section, as his charting tools require understanding what is "Retail" and what is "Digital" - those drop-down options came from that part of the site.

You'll note the information isn't really displayed anywhere on the game page (other than if you come into this option, to edit) - so I would just say, unless you know for sure a game is a "Retail" distribution, I wouldn't even bother with the field (we're perfectly fine with having it left blank). If Machina needs it set to something specific, he may do so himself...  :)

In that case, you might want to reduce the section to a simple "Retail: Yes/No/Unknown" choice then for users that don't need the extra functionality. It's really confusing the way it is right now, at least for PC games.



tak13 on 11 January 2018

I have a question.
With the previous system, it was possible to see ltd sales in France and other European countries, now it seems it's not!



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JEMC on 12 January 2018
TalonMan said:
Zkuq said:

Having to put a date at all for games without an exact date is a bit stupid though, but whatever.

MANY of the tools need to be upgraded and/or enhanced - there's only so much one person can do, at one time though...   ...either that, or we'd still be waiting for the database to come online - and it might be another year, before we'd actually ever see it by the time I get every minor detail worked out.  :(

I'd say - this is the kind of thing to suggest in the 'database suggestion' thread...

There's a database suggestion thread? Where?



Please excuse my bad English.

Currently gaming on a PC with an i5-4670k@stock (for now), 16Gb RAM 1600 MHz and a GTX 1070

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JEMC on 12 January 2018
Ryuu96 said:
JEMC said:

There's a database suggestion thread? Where?

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=233918

Thanks!



Please excuse my bad English.

Currently gaming on a PC with an i5-4670k@stock (for now), 16Gb RAM 1600 MHz and a GTX 1070

Steam / Live / NNID : jonxiquet    Add me if you want, but I'm a single player gamer.

tak13 on 12 January 2018
TalonMan said:
tak13 said:
I have a question.
With the previous system, it was possible to see ltd sales in France and other European countries, now it seems it's not!

The data is still available - just not currently from the game pages. It will get addressed...

I suspected that, I just wanted a confirmation, take your time boss!



kirby007 on 20 January 2018

So I supposedly added 500 summaries to games where is me money?



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kirby007 on 20 January 2018
TalonMan said:
kirby007 said:

So I supposedly added 500 summaries to games where is me money?

I'll assume you're asking this because you just got your shiny new badges - these were given out retroactively, so I'm SURE you did your fair share of database work in the past and had earned those VG$...    ...and I'm equally sure you subsequently blew all those VG$ with your various bans.  :P

Here I was hoping to have some easy extra cash to go all in in the first rounds of the you-know-what :D



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