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thismeintiel said:
Goodnightmoon said:

The more I think about it, the less i understand what is happening here, I think this will be remembered in the future as some kind of collective madness, a movie that was absolutely amazing getting all kinds of absolutely undeserved criticism just because its different and it takes a lot of risks, a great movie is sooner or later remembered as that and I have no doubts TLJ will be considered as that in some years but is truly amazing to watch the reactions of the people now, amazing and kind of sad too, because so many of them are pure overreactions, I always have the feeling that people is expecting Disney to ruin the franchise and despite the fact that they didn't they still looking for signs of that failure in any bold movement, so many of the issues this people has with the film make no sense from a narrative or cinematographic pov, is really mindblowing.

Highly doubtful. It seems for the most part, as people get further out from this film, they like it less and less. As more reviews pile in, the scores just keep going down. And I think we're going to see a larger drop than the one TFA saw this weekend, which means worse word of mouth and fewer repeat watchers.

Personally, I can't comprehend the madness of people liking this film. Thinking it was just OK or meh is fine, but liking it? Must be people who are fans of Marvel humor, done poorly I must add, shoved into every movie. Clichéd writing with absolutely no nuance. And a main plot that was, at best, an episode of a generic Sci Fi show, stretched out to fill 2 hrs. People might like this film, but that's either because aren't fans of the OG trilogy, where things of importance actually happened and the stakes were high, or just accept anything with SW in the title. 

Agree. Maybe with time or when people get older they will realize how this movie was a mess and poorly written. Not all of it but a good portion.

 

In the next movies when the jedi develop even new powers like new xmen then people will realize it started with TLJ.



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Pavolink said:
bigjon said:

to be fair, I feel all 3 of the Disney SW are better than the prequels...

 

TFA had balance, it appealed to the older fans due to all the damn nostalgia and the newer fans because it was a clean, efficient movie that was a lot of fun.

 

R1 was more popular with core fans because it added a lot of lore and expanded on one of their beloved films.

TLJ is mixed to core fans because it breaks some "Star Wars Rules" but casual fans love it because it is interest and keeps them guessing. 

 

 

 

 

Not in this universe. Prequels are SW movies. Disney comedies are saturday morning fillers at best.

 

There are only 6 real SW movies: Episode I to VI.

Episode 1 and 2 are absolutely horrible



thismeintiel said:
Goodnightmoon said:

The more I think about it, the less i understand what is happening here, I think this will be remembered in the future as some kind of collective madness, a movie that was absolutely amazing getting all kinds of absolutely undeserved criticism just because its different and it takes a lot of risks, a great movie is sooner or later remembered as that and I have no doubts TLJ will be considered as that in some years but is truly amazing to watch the reactions of the people now, amazing and kind of sad too, because so many of them are pure overreactions, I always have the feeling that people is expecting Disney to ruin the franchise and despite the fact that they didn't they still looking for signs of that failure in any bold movement, so many of the issues this people has with the film make no sense from a narrative or cinematographic pov, is really mindblowing.

Highly doubtful. It seems for the most part, as people get further out from this film, they like it less and less. As more reviews pile in, the scores just keep going down. And I think we're going to see a larger drop than the one TFA saw this weekend, which means worse word of mouth and fewer repeat watchers.

Personally, I can't comprehend the madness of people liking this film. Thinking it was just OK or meh is fine, but liking it? Must be people who are fans of Marvel humor, done poorly I must add, shoved into every movie. Clichéd writing with absolutely no nuance. And a main plot that was, at best, an episode of a generic Sci Fi show, stretched out to fill 2 hrs. People might like this film, but that's either because aren't fans of the OG trilogy, where things of importance actually happened and the stakes were high, or just accept anything with SW in the title. 

I'm a huge fan of the original trilogy yet I find this one clearly better than Episode 6, a movie where the galaxy is saved cause a tribe of teddy bears think C3PO is God (lol), half of the film is quite unsubstantial, the quality of direction is quite uneven and Boba Feet has one of the stupidest deaths ever, however most fans say its a masterpiece even when its pretty obvious if that movie was released today fans would have reacted like it is the worst movie ever. Still a good movie but The Last Jedi is undoubtly better imo.

Last edited by Goodnightmoon - on 22 December 2017

Vincoletto said:
thismeintiel said:

Highly doubtful. It seems for the most part, as people get further out from this film, they like it less and less. As more reviews pile in, the scores just keep going down. And I think we're going to see a larger drop than the one TFA saw this weekend, which means worse word of mouth and fewer repeat watchers.

Personally, I can't comprehend the madness of people liking this film. Thinking it was just OK or meh is fine, but liking it? Must be people who are fans of Marvel humor, done poorly I must add, shoved into every movie. Clichéd writing with absolutely no nuance. And a main plot that was, at best, an episode of a generic Sci Fi show, stretched out to fill 2 hrs. People might like this film, but that's either because aren't fans of the OG trilogy, where things of importance actually happened and the stakes were high, or just accept anything with SW in the title. 

Agree. Maybe with time or when people get older they will realize how this movie was a mess and poorly written. Not all of it but a good portion.

 

In the next movies when the jedi develop even new powers like new xmen then people will realize it started with TLJ.

It will happen exactly the opposite, many of the people now saying the movie was horrible will realize little by little that they were totally wrong, I already have seen a bunch of people saying that on a 2nd view they liked it more and I expect this number to grow, mark my words, critics were totally right with this one, fans are just overreacting cause the movie has some really bold moments but time will put it on its place.

Last edited by Goodnightmoon - on 22 December 2017

https://www.forbes.com/sites/robcain/2017/12/20/rotten-tomatoes-confirms-its-55-last-jedi-audience-score-is-100-authentic



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Lawlight said:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/robcain/2017/12/20/rotten-tomatoes-confirms-its-55-last-jedi-audience-score-is-100-authentic

Have you seen the movie? Cause I only see you trying to constantly downgrade it but still haven't seen a single sign that you watched it, do you want to shit about it just because is Disney or because critics liked it? That kind of behaviour would be so typical of you.



Goodnightmoon said:
Lawlight said:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/robcain/2017/12/20/rotten-tomatoes-confirms-its-55-last-jedi-audience-score-is-100-authentic

Have you seen the movie? Cause I only see you trying to constantly downgrade it but still haven't seen a single sign that you watched it, do you want to shit about it just because is Disney or because critics liked it? That's so you.

Not yet. I'm waiting for it to come to streaming. Nobody I know really wants to go see it after the first one. With this one being, by most accounts, terrible, there's even less of a desire to see it.

I'm just posting some news about the movie - plenty of sites are trying to downplay the poor reception. Do you have an issue with the post I made?



Lawlight said:
Goodnightmoon said:

Have you seen the movie? Cause I only see you trying to constantly downgrade it but still haven't seen a single sign that you watched it, do you want to shit about it just because is Disney or because critics liked it? That's so you.

Not yet. I'm waiting for it to come to streaming. Nobody I know really wants to go see it after the first one. With this one being, by most accounts, terrible, there's even less of a desire to see it.

I'm just posting some news about the movie - plenty of sites are trying to downplay the poor reception. Do you have an issue with the post I made?

Yes I think is beyond pathetic that you keep trying to indirectly downgrade a movie you haven't watched, but then again you constantly do that with Nintendo games so no surprise.



Goodnightmoon said:
Lawlight said:

Not yet. I'm waiting for it to come to streaming. Nobody I know really wants to go see it after the first one. With this one being, by most accounts, terrible, there's even less of a desire to see it.

I'm just posting some news about the movie - plenty of sites are trying to downplay the poor reception. Do you have an issue with the post I made?

Yes I think is beyond pathetic that you keep trying to indirectly downgrade a movie you haven't watched, but then again you constantly do that with Nintendo games so no surprise.

Is it more pathetic that someone getting offended that others are posting articles about the movie?



Lawlight said:
Goodnightmoon said:

Yes I think is beyond pathetic that you keep trying to indirectly downgrade a movie you haven't watched, but then again you constantly do that with Nintendo games so no surprise.

Is it more pathetic that someone getting offended that others are posting articles about the movie?

I'm not offended, I'm amazed by your level of random hate to some things you haven't even watched/played, quite a toxic behaviour.