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crumas2 said:
johntonsoup said:
Words Of Wisdom said:
I'm totally with him!

How dare those awful game developers make fictional games that don't represent the real world.

His point is that game developers put a lot of time and thought into creating their fictional worlds but rarely think to feature a black protagonist. I think that's true.


This is all so hilarious. The developer decides to cast the hero as hispanic, and people are complaining that the main character isn't black. Sheesh. If he was black, then there would be people complaining that he wasn't female, etc., etc.

Is it really the developer's job to make sure everyone has a warm and fuzzy regarding how they perceive their own place in life? I thought it was to make kick butt games with engaging characters. Why doesn't someone with an African American heritage start a dev house and make games with black protagonists? That's what I would do if I was really bothered about that sort of thing. Then again, if the games didn't sell well there would be a lot of complaining about racist consumers.

 


 His point was that if they can depict a hispanic main character in a sensible manner, then why did they make the black supporting character a retread of an obsolete stereotype? He also points out that this stereotype doesn't even make sense within the setting that the writers established and that cringe-inducing black characters have become depressingly common in video games.

I think the fundamental problem is that game writers tend to blindly create characters out of scraps of pop culture and characters from other games. The result is that every black character falls into one of the following four categories: "cool" tough guy who uses bizarre slang, thug who also uses bizarre slang, amalgamation of Samuel L. Jackson characters, and amalgamation of Morgan Freeman characters. 



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elnino334 said:
Omac said:
theRepublic said:
Everyone who thinks that this is "no big deal" needs to wake up to the real world. There is plenty of racism out there, and all of these little things add up after awhile. Off the top of my head, I can't think of a single game in which black people are portrayed in a positive light. Most games don't even have black characters. The few games I have played with black characters, like Guitar Hero and SSX Tricky, have pretty stereotypical black characters.

Although to be fair, all the characters in those two games are pretty stereotypical.

 Not true at all.  Off the top of my head, what about in HL2 the black scientist and his daughter that helps out.


Off the top of your head you remember characters from a game made about 8 years ago.  I am just being silly don't mind me. 


 It's not just A game though, it's Half Life 2. And, I was thinking about Eli and Alyx, as well.

This guy does make a good point, though, and it's not just black people. Asians get it bad, so do women... and
sharks. And it's not just games, it's all forms of media.

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ph4nt said:
Lol...people get so caught up over the portrayal of a black in a game.

Ever watch a Black Tv show? usually there is only 1 white guy who is portrayed as an idiot.

Is the game REALLY stereotyping? i wouldn't say so. Go up to any random black person and have them talk, i guarantee more than 3/4ths will talk like Cole in Gears of War. (heck there are 3 in my class who talk EXACTLY like that). It's not a stereotype if its a fact.

 



I would argue that everyone in that game is a stereotype.



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Most black people act the same way as they are portrayed in games. Not only that but most of the black people i know have sold drugs, played basketball and talked street, i guess thats what its called. The other black people i have known fit other typical black stereotypes, one is a larger lady who loves that southern food and a guy who came to this country when he was about 17 from Africa, and he still likes to wear those robes, he is in his 50's now.



Griffin said:
Most black people act the same way as they are portrayed in games. Not only that but most of the black people i know have sold drugs, played basketball and talked street, i guess thats what its called. The other black people i have known fit other typical black stereotypes, one is a larger lady who loves that southern food and a guy who came to this country when he was about 17 from Africa, and he still likes to wear those robes, he is in his 50's now.

Tell me you're joking. Seriously, tell me if you're joking or not. This is treacherous ground you're walking on.




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I'm gonna have to heave a big sigh of relief here--reading the whole article, he goes into extreme detail about why he speicifically DOES NOT hate Resident Evil 5. And that's coming from a black person. That proves, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that the game is not racist.

With regard to Gears of War, it is true--every character is stereotyped. There's the steroid-infused main character who swears all the time and shoots crap, the dickhead commander he doesn't listen to, the ass-saving sidekick, the black guy who can take on 20 guys by himself, the girl at command who feeds intel from behind the scenes, and the guy who hates everybody (including said main character) but is still bound by duty.



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rocketpig said:
Griffin said:
Most black people act the same way as they are portrayed in games. Not only that but most of the black people i know have sold drugs, played basketball and talked street, i guess thats what its called. The other black people i have known fit other typical black stereotypes, one is a larger lady who loves that southern food and a guy who came to this country when he was about 17 from Africa, and he still likes to wear those robes, he is in his 50's now.

Tell me you're joking. Seriously, tell me if you're joking or not. This is treacherous ground you're walking on.


I am serious, I'm sure not all black people fit the type of people i listed but those have been the black people i have known. Where i went to Highschool there were only about a dozen black people out of about 1400 and all them sold drugs/did drugs, and acted the typical black street person. When i went to JR high, there were alot more black people and this was how it was. This is just how it was where i grew up and where i live now. I'm not being racist if this is what people think, i'm far from it.

The city i live in has more people useing drugs per population then just about any other place in the country.  Thekitchensink guy goes to college in the same town as i live, ask him.  I'm sure he will of have seen what i'm talking about.



1) It's already been mentioned several time but games genearlly stereotype.
2) This image he complains about is a little self inflicted, (MTV)
3) Why doesn't he rant about comic books and there not being enough black people.

What I find amusing is (rocketpig correct me if its just me) how in ad capaigns for anything in the government I have ever done it was always a requirment that there be minority images. Like 1 white guy and 5 minoritys and a lot of time no whites.

Why? Because of certain groups get a little more upset about being left out then other group.

He does have a point but did anyone click the link for more? It's very long and full of ranting.



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