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Forums - Sales - November 2017 NPD Thread! PS4 > XBO > Switch

Pavolink said:
fatslob-:O said:

No deals on Black Friday ... 

 

Lawlight said:

Stock was fine. I think it’s just a case of that number being how much it can sell at that price in a November. If they wanted to sell more, then they needed to drop the price.

 

chakkra said:

Lack of Black Friday deals.  Think about it, why would you run out of your home to buy an item that day when you could just get it any other day for the same price?

 

Intrinsic said:

Technically they have....

Before this November i was singing no stock from the rooftops. Now I am not so sure because they didn't have a stock problem.

Thanks guys.

I guess it's not a bad number, but pales in comparision with the other 2.

Yeah, it's not a bad number at all. But Black Friday is a pretty sales-driven day. I didn't really buy that the Switch could have won the BF in the US, it was just contrary to my belief of human behaviour XD. Still, it's probably that Switch won in revenue. Not sure about that though.



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zorg1000 said:
I dont recall PS4 having stock issues in Nov 2014, I tried looking it up and all i could find were articles about shortages in Europe up through June 2014.

Going back, just now.  I think you are right.  I may have been thinking of Dec of '13.  '14 is when MS started those crazy firesales, which included bundling a game that had just came out, AC:Unity w/ Black Flag, for $329, just a year after the XBO released for $499.



thismeintiel said:
zorg1000 said:
I dont recall PS4 having stock issues in Nov 2014, I tried looking it up and all i could find were articles about shortages in Europe up through June 2014.

Going back, just now.  I think you are right.  I may have been thinking of Dec of '13.  '14 is when MS started those crazy firesales, which included bundling a game that had just came out, AC:Unity w/ Black Flag, for $329, just a year after the XBO released for $499.

Ok thats what i was thinking. XBO won Nov with those crazy deals while PS4 just held ground at its launch price.

Thats why the Switch numbers arent concerning (not that you said they were), it did similar numbers as PS4 in its first post-launch November and both were up against heavily discounted competition.



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Tulipanzo said:
Just goes to show how big Black Friday is that Nintendo is so far behind despite winning the last couple months.

As an aside, two years of marketing and the launch of a new console couldn't make XBox match a discounted PS4 in its strongest territory. Can't see this going well once the launch hype is totally dead

Wasn't it confirmed that the Switch "won" Black Friday?



I think this is a clear indication of the interest in Switch dropping. It had no supply issues in this region, the $299 was still considerably less than the Pro or Xbox One X and it also had Mario and Zelda going for it this year, something that won't be true for next year. I don't see 2018 being a good year for Switch. It has no interesting big name exclusive, I don't think either Metroid or Pokemon will make it to 2018. I hope it pulls through and succeeds, though. With the Wii U failing, at least Nintendo had the 3DS to rely on.



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KLXVER said:
Tulipanzo said:
Just goes to show how big Black Friday is that Nintendo is so far behind despite winning the last couple months.

As an aside, two years of marketing and the launch of a new console couldn't make XBox match a discounted PS4 in its strongest territory. Can't see this going well once the launch hype is totally dead

Wasn't it confirmed that the Switch "won" Black Friday?

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When your console sells 900k in November with no deals like the other two and your now considered as losing interest. Then you look at online retailers and the console is in the top 10 everywhere..



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OfficerRaichu15 said:
When your console sells 900k in November with no deals like the other two and your now considered as losing interest. Then you look at online retailers and the console is in the top 10 everywhere..

What I find amusing, is they would use ZhugeEx information to downplay one, when he highlights all three did amazing well.



 

gcwy said:
I think this is a clear indication of the interest in Switch dropping. It had no supply issues in this region, the $299 was still considerably less than the Pro or Xbox One X and it also had Mario and Zelda going for it this year, something that won't be true for next year. I don't see 2018 being a good year for Switch. It has no interesting big name exclusive, I don't think either Metroid or Pokemon will make it to 2018. I hope it pulls through and succeeds, though. With the Wii U failing, at least Nintendo had the 3DS to rely on.

You're really jumping the gun here.

Switch did right about the same amount as PS4 did in Nov 2014, did you think interest in PS4 was dropping then?

I dont know how anyone can comment on Switch's 2018 lineup when we know next to nothing about it yet. At this point last year Zelda was the only 1st party game Nintendo had announced. If we get a Nintendo Direct next month and the 2018 lineup still looks lackluster than you will have a point but at this moment it is way to soon.

Sure 2018 could see a big drop in sales but there is literally nothing to support that argument yet.



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gcwy said:
I think this is a clear indication of the interest in Switch dropping. It had no supply issues in this region, the $299 was still considerably less than the Pro or Xbox One X and it also had Mario and Zelda going for it this year, something that won't be true for next year. I don't see 2018 being a good year for Switch. It has no interesting big name exclusive, I don't think either Metroid or Pokemon will make it to 2018. I hope it pulls through and succeeds, though. With the Wii U failing, at least Nintendo had the 3DS to rely on.

The majority of sales for PS4 and XOne came from One S and PS4 Slim (both of which got massive discounts) not One X or Pro. Also, how is being up month by month and nearly matching PS4 and 3DS's first full November an indication that interest is falling? FYI, 3DS sold very similarly to Switch in its first November, but it got beaten by a huge margin by Xbox 360 and to a lesser degree by both Wii and PS3 in that month and 3DS did not end up failing. Not sure how people are thinking 770K is a bad number when the system is at full price while it's competitors had over $100 in hardware discounts and lots of software sales. Also, this is nowhere close to Wii U (where sales in its first full November was in the 200k territory).