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Forums - Sales Discussion - November 2017 NPD Thread! PS4 > XBO > Switch

jason1637 on 09 December 2017
Intrinsic said:
jason1637 said:

World wide Yea but I don't think it will in the US.

I really doubt it matters.

Yea it doesn't in the bigger picture but the guy was talking about regions/countries.



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tbone51 on 09 December 2017
Lawlight said:
160rmf said:

You will switch your narrative according to the situation

And my narrative is? That the PS4 will outsell the Switch?

Your narrative is "i cant let nintendo have any good news" lmao



zorg1000 on 09 December 2017
Intrinsic said:
zorg1000 said:

How is under 30% not a minority? Over 70% thought either Ps4 or XBO would win.

Are you kidding me now?

This was a three way vote. Not a two way vote.

55% PS4

28% NSW

15% XB1.

And somehow the NS was the minority? Only if you decide to pool PS4 and XB1 votes  together against the NS, but by that twisted reasoning.... you might as well pool the vots of the PS4=NS of those that thought it would win. Which would give you 80%+....... oh look... still higher than you own pool.

Stop the BS... its a 3 way vote. A contender getting more than half the votes of the winner doesn't make it a minority.

Why wouldnt we pool PS4 & XBO in this scenario?

I was replying to you saying some thought Switch would dominate so its not NSW vs PS4 vs XBO, its NSW vs PS4/XBO in this particular case.

Also just because someone thought it would win does not mean they thought it would dominate. If only 25-30% of people thought it would win than you are probably looking at less than 10% saying it would dominate.

So yes your original statement that some thought it would dominate is likely true, it seems weird to single out what a small minority thought.



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Lawlight on 09 December 2017
zorg1000 said:
Lawlight said:

The Switch didn’t actually have any lead - the PS4 was still leading 2017.

I know, i was saying it likely erased the lead Switch had built up since launch. I wasnt counting months that Switch wasnt available.

Excluding Jan and Feb, the Switch's lead is only due to its launch month. Outside of that, the PS4's lead is 43k.



Lawlight on 09 December 2017
KLXVER said:
Barkley said:

in the US? I don't think it's likely. According to VGC only 33% of PS4's are sold in the USA. as Opposed to the 45% of the Wii.

Basically PS4 would have to sell 136.5m+ globally, assuming it's market ratio by region remains the same.

Oh sorry. I meant WW.

That's a given.



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Lawlight on 09 December 2017
tbone51 said:
Lawlight said:

And my narrative is? That the PS4 will outsell the Switch?

Your narrative is "i cant let nintendo have any good news" lmao

What's the good news? That the Switch sold below expectations this month again?



tbone51 on 09 December 2017
Lawlight said:
tbone51 said:

Your narrative is "i cant let nintendo have any good news" lmao

What's the good news? That the Switch sold below expectations this month again?

How do you feel about it being the 4th highest Nov for 1st year holidays? 



KLXVER on 09 December 2017
Lawlight said:
tbone51 said:

Your narrative is "i cant let nintendo have any good news" lmao

What's the good news? That the Switch sold below expectations this month again?

What did Nintendo expect it to sell?



zorg1000 on 09 December 2017
tbone51 said:
Lawlight said:

What's the good news? That the Switch sold below expectations this month again?

How do you feel about it being the 4th highest Nov for 1st year holidays? 

Its not good because Switch is $100 less than PS4 was in 2014.



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thismeintiel on 09 December 2017
tbone51 said:
Lawlight said:

And my narrative is? That the PS4 will outsell the Switch?

Your narrative is "i cant let nintendo have any good news" lmao

This is good news.  Just not great.  Especially for those who were thinking the Switch would be the next Wii/PS4.  It didn't quite match the PS4's first Nov after launch, even though it was $100 cheaper and had little supply issue.  The PS4, however, did have supply issues that Nov, which caused a XBO victory for that month.  The PS4/Switch gap for 1st Nov could have easily been 200K+ without those issues.