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Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty is a masterpiece of video game history. The story and characters are very fascinating. Have played it about 30x in my life.

PS: Hideo Kojima also predicted the NSA scandal in MGS2 (to read in the story of Solidus Snake at the end of the game). Many editors have recommended playing the game again in recent years, the game was very intelligent in the past. Much today shows that it was already reality. (NSA, the worldwide tragedy and manipulated market economy, the fight / the Patriots behind the usa ect). Especially the philosophy of the game is incredible.

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"The Last of Us 2" is officially Game of the Year 2020, worldwide. Ghost of Tsushima-Artwork:

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I don't really think though that it was meant to be a prediction of the future. I think that it was actually meant to be a reflection of events that were already ongoing at the time.



AngryLittleAlchemist said:
COKTOE said:

With you on this. I have tried to play it a few times and just can't get past the controls. Can't stand them, and I'm not unable to adapt to most games I've played. In fact, I can't think of another example where controls I hated kept me from enjoying a game. Loved MGS 4 though. That control revamp saved the series for me, until MGS 5 destroyed it forever.

2 has iffy controls, but 3 and Peace Walker have good controls.

Really wish they'd release all games on one collection. They kind of did on PS3 but I don't know if that MGS1 voucher still applies. I would have appreciated MGS3 so much more if I was already a Metal Gear fan

I was so turned off by 2, I never tried 3. I watched 2 friends play MGS 3 for a few minutes and was impressed by it's graphics. That's my only exposure to it. I bought the MGS Box Set on PS2, which has 1, 2, and 3. It's still sealed. I have 2 and 3 on the Vita as well.



- "If you have the heart of a true winner, you can always get more pissed off than some other asshole."

Just watched the clip Kero linked to. Pretty good.



- "If you have the heart of a true winner, you can always get more pissed off than some other asshole."

VGPolyglot said:
I don't really think though that it was meant to be a prediction of the future. I think that it was actually meant to be a reflection of events that were already ongoing at the time.

The point is most people wouldn't have taken this seriously at the time. Kojima is a visionary.



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A_C_E said:
Nymeria said:
"Everyone withdraws into their own small gated community, afraid of the larger forum. They stay inside their little ponds, leaking whatever “truth” suits them into the growing cesspool of society at large."

This is what I see over and over online and recent years into real life. People don't talk to one another, algorithms create spirals of echo chambers to reinforce worldviews. All one has to see is how dramatically people answer polling differently based on what group they belong to.

The internet has not evolved humans, other way around. Humans have always been this way they just evolved the way information spreads. People used to (and still do) write letters to spread misinformation or write for newspaper columns, its literally nothing new, just a different avenue.

I would argue we may be shifting from organized control to chaotic control.  When media came from a few sources the gatekeepers did have the ability to manipulate.  Now, with no gatekeepers, people seek out validation of world view to manipulate themselves. It's going from Orwell to Huxley type of distopia. 

The key in both is critical thought that constantly asks why we reach the conclusions we do.



Nymeria said:
A_C_E said:

The internet has not evolved humans, other way around. Humans have always been this way they just evolved the way information spreads. People used to (and still do) write letters to spread misinformation or write for newspaper columns, its literally nothing new, just a different avenue.

I would argue we may be shifting from organized control to chaotic control.  When media came from a few sources the gatekeepers did have the ability to manipulate.  Now, with no gatekeepers, people seek out validation of world view to manipulate themselves. It's going from Orwell to Huxley type of distopia. 

The key in both is critical thought that constantly asks why we reach the conclusions we do.

And this is literally the only thing I care about as far as conversations go. I don't care about someone's title, whether they are Socialist, Capitalist, Communist, Fascist - Atheist or Religious - Red or Blue, it only matters what your view is and how you reached your viewpoints.

I would argue that chaotic control is a much better environment with which thought can be transferred. Title's allow for a more organized thought process. The mind isn't an organized machine though. The mind appreciates organization because it makes things easier but easy is very rarely the most fruitful avenue.

There is a reason why two Atheists can disagree with each other, two religious people can disagree with each other, two Communists can disagree with each other. This is because a title has extremely limited value (if any at all) in the understanding of information. But people will always argue from a titled standpoint i.e., "You liberals are all the same" or "Conservatives don't know how to argue".

Point being, people will always act this way, always have, and information will always be propagated in bias fashion. This isn't the problem however. The problem stems from those who subscribe to these standards of thought as opposed to critical thought that constantly asks why we reach the conclusions we do, exactly like you say.



green_sky said:
Weak MGS game but great clip.

Highest rated MGS game on metacritic!!! Revolutionary game for its time. Critics agreed that it was greater than the original.



StreaK said:
green_sky said:
Weak MGS game but great clip.

Highest rated MGS game on metacritic!!! Revolutionary game for its time. Critics agreed that it was greater than the original.

It is "my" opinion. Do we have to state that every time we say something now.