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VGPolyglot on 01 December 2017
caffeinade said:
VGPolyglot said:

I disagree. If a sequel is a refinement of the sequel it still has its place, as there are people who want an improvement of the previous game without a drastic re-invention of the wheel.

Depends on how dramatic the change is.
Half-Life to Half-Life 2 is huge, but it is still at the core the same game.
Splatoon to Splatoon 2 was minimal (though it brought the game to a new platform and player base, whop could not experience the first; myself included).

People need a reason to buy a game, look at the sales of: Dishonored 2, Titanfall 2 and Watch Dogs 2.

But all three of those games you listed are considered to be good.



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caffeinade on 01 December 2017
VGPolyglot said:
caffeinade said:

Depends on how dramatic the change is.
Half-Life to Half-Life 2 is huge, but it is still at the core the same game.
Splatoon to Splatoon 2 was minimal (though it brought the game to a new platform and player base, whop could not experience the first; myself included).

People need a reason to buy a game, look at the sales of: Dishonored 2, Titanfall 2 and Watch Dogs 2.

But all three of those games you listed are considered to be good.

The biggest draw to all of the games is: "the old game, but not trash".

Dishonored 2, is a bit different.
Dishonored 2 is the last game, but more, and broken on PC.

You can only sell so much of the same product to the same consumer.
If you want to sell product; you need to have an exciting, enticing product.

Video games are not like the music or movie industries; video games require engagement from the users.
Games can become fatiguing in a way that movies, music and TV aren't.

Look at annual games like: Pokemon, CoD and Sports titles.
These games are very easy to consume; they are liquid fun, and therefore they sell millions.



VGPolyglot on 01 December 2017
caffeinade said:
VGPolyglot said:

But all three of those games you listed are considered to be good.

The biggest draw to all of the games is: "the old game, but not trash".

Dishonored 2, is a bit different.
Dishonored 2 is the last game, but more, and broken on PC.

You can only sell so much of the same product to the same consumer.
If you want to sell product; you need to have an exciting, enticing product.

Video games are not like the music or movie industries; video games require engagement from the users.
Games can become fatiguing in a way that movies, music and TV aren't.

Look at annual games like: Pokemon, CoD and Sports titles.
These games are very easy to consume; they are liquid fun, and therefore they sell millions.

But those are examples of games that don't have drastic re-inventions year-after-year, ye they still sell well.



TruckOSaurus on 01 December 2017
Insidb said:
The Matrix.

The movie.

I'm so much happier since I started pretending the sequels were never made.



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OTBWY on 01 December 2017

Half-Life 2.



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caffeinade on 01 December 2017
VGPolyglot said:
caffeinade said:

The biggest draw to all of the games is: "the old game, but not trash".

Dishonored 2, is a bit different.
Dishonored 2 is the last game, but more, and broken on PC.

You can only sell so much of the same product to the same consumer.
If you want to sell product; you need to have an exciting, enticing product.

Video games are not like the music or movie industries; video games require engagement from the users.
Games can become fatiguing in a way that movies, music and TV aren't.

Look at annual games like: Pokemon, CoD and Sports titles.
These games are very easy to consume; they are liquid fun, and therefore they sell millions.

But those are examples of games that don't have drastic re-inventions year-after-year, ye they still sell well.

Yes, because they are easy to consume.
The games offer a high rate of enjoyment per hour, and they require very little investment from the player to receive that enjoyment.



caffeinade on 01 December 2017
OTBWY said:
Half-Life 2.

You're getting one.

Eventually.



OTBWY on 01 December 2017
caffeinade said:
OTBWY said:
Half-Life 2.

You're getting one.

Eventually.

When Gaben stops making money from Steam.



caffeinade on 01 December 2017
OTBWY said:
caffeinade said:

You're getting one.

Eventually.

When Gaben stops making money from Steam.

Hmm, so you're saying Valve are going nuts: trying to make the biggest game they can, because they have no budget (unlimited money).
Yeah, but I don't think I would want something that is only half done.

I think Gabe wants Half-Life 3 more than the fans.
Valve will release the game, when it is perfect.



OTBWY on 01 December 2017
caffeinade said:
OTBWY said:

When Gaben stops making money from Steam.

Hmm, so you're saying Valve are going nuts: trying to make the biggest game they can, because they have no budget (unlimited money).
Yeah, but I don't think I would want something that is only half done.

I think Gabe wants Half-Life 3 more than the fans.
Valve will release the game, when it is perfect.

I'm saying the company has been changing. It has a platform that dominates PC gaming. It has become more a steam software and hardware development company for better or for worse. It really doesn't need to ever make a game again, and it shows in their release record these past years in my opinion.