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Forums - Politics - Donald Trump: How Do You Feel about Him Now? (Poll)

 

Last November,

I supported him and I still do - Americas 91 15.77%
 
I supported him and I now don't - Americas 16 2.77%
 
I supported him and I still do - Europe 37 6.41%
 
I supported him and I now don't - Europe 7 1.21%
 
I supported him and I still do - Asia 6 1.04%
 
I supported him and I now don't - Asia 1 0.17%
 
I supported him and I still do - RoW 15 2.60%
 
I supported him and I now don't - RoW 2 0.35%
 
I didn't support him and still don't. 373 64.64%
 
I didn't support him and now do. 29 5.03%
 
Total:577

To no ones shock this week has made me so damn happy he's the President. From the nomination to the Supreme Court, to the DOJ finally settling on a 1st amendment case regarding sharing information between private parties (3D gun files), to pardoning the two Bundy men after every agency from state to the feds mislead and lied to the court while withholding evidence for years from the defense.

Once Brett gets sworn in and the Republicans hold both houses of Congress, it will make 2018 a top 5 year.



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massimus said:
Machiavellian said:

This is what I would call projection.  For some reason you believe I have to hate Trump to dislike how he does things.  This is like Trump saying, a Mexican heritage Judge cannot try a case against Trump University because he is Mexican.  You are basically trying to make it appear anyone who does not support your Opinion of Trump must hate him. I see this alot from people who support Trump. 

You say that Trump isn't dumb and that is your opinion.  I believe he is just dumb.  He says dumb stuff all the time.  He do dumb shit all the time.  He speaks like he is 12 years old.  His administration and how he manage people about as sloppy and dishevel as any other president I have seen, He is Hemorrhaging people left and right.  The majority of the time he does not seem prepared when he meets world leaders.  I believe he is a complete and utter idiot.  Just like you do not care what other people say when it comes to Trump, that's your opinion but because I do not share it, I must be a hater in your eyes.  You say he is running circles around people but the idiot keeps getting in his own way.  He barely can get anything done with a Republican majority.  He cannot get his wall funded.  He said he would fix healthcare but basically did nothing.  Besides the US Ban, his success rate as a negotiator is crap.

No the housing crisis did not blow up because the federal government decided that everyone needed a house.  Subprime loans being sold on the market then the market betting they would default then banks buying and selling and betting against those loans cause the crash.  Once the market saw the flaw, they went into overdrive selling, buying, betting against those loans and everyone making a killing knowing this crap was going to go nuclear.  Banks were not forced to take those mortgages, they played the game and made billions.  You need to read more into it because your knowledge is just surface material.

Projection would be me saying you hate Trump when in reality I hate trump. There is no projection here lol. You are free to dislike him, I’m just pointing out your single focus. You said he wouldn’t be the first or last in the trump administration like it’s something new in government lol. I’m saying the government has always been like that, it’s why trump was elected. “The swamp” etc. I’m not against the guy getting the boot. That’s the difference, people are actually getting fired for abuse. You mention all of these people resigning, good. In previous administrations they weren’t fired, they were free to abuse our systems freely and you didn’t give a shit. That’s all I’m pointing out.

 

Well you support people like Pelosi who still thinks Bush is president so that’s not saying much lol. I can count on 2 hands the people in congress that aren’t dumber than shit, complete fucking morons. Trump is a genius compared to these people. Trump signs law, he doesn’t make law. Obama tried to make law through executive orders and Trump dismantled most of it. It’s much harder to get shit done through congress the right way, especially when both parties hate you. He has done outstanding considering but he isn’t without his flaws, I agree.

 

You seem to be operating under the premise that the federal government isn’t in almost complete control of the housing and financial sectors lol. The “banks are evil” bullshit holds no water. No real bank would support subprime mortgages, there is no faster way to ruin your business. They were backed and bailed out. What good is owning a bunch of foreclosed houses if the market is compete shit? They’re giving away houses now, they made money on the feds.

No, projection is when you believe something and project that on to someone else without knowing anything about them.  You believe it to be true so no matter what anyone says this is your reality. 

Lol, you have no clue who I support.  Yes, the government has always had people like Pruitt and for some reason it seems people believed Trump would be different but instead he is no better and if anything just more ignorant.  That is probably the funny part, as people believed that whole stupid "Swamp" slogan when he admitted during a rally in Florida it was just a political slogan.  Like all con men, Trump is well verse in saying whatever you want to here as long as you support him, but the meaning behind his words are as empty as his ability to manage. You forget that all the people who has or did get fired or just left because they found out they were working for an idiot was all great people, at least that is what Trump says every time he picks someone to represent his administration.  The fact that they got fired because they were as dirty as him is the funny part.

Here is another projection of yours.  Not sure how you came to the conclusion I support Pelosi, since she has never came up in any conversations that I can remember but I guess if you believe it, it must be True.  Here you go giving Trump praise again for doing the same thing as Obama.  So you are saying all the Executive orders he has signed so far is not doing the same thing Obama did.  You just ignore those that try to bypass congress because as you stated, getting things done when the other party has a majority is pretty hard.  It would seem even with a majority, Trump killer negotiations skills can barely get anything done.

So exactly how is the Federal government in control how a bank sell a loan.  So the federal government packaged up millions of dollar of subprime loans and sold them as AAA assets.  No, the federal government had no involvement in that scheme it was your Trusty banks who collected all this debt then decided to sell it off as fast and as lose as possible.  Those banks sold those subprime loans in a package designed to sell because they lied about what it contained knowing that the risk to those loans defaulting were high.  Since normal loans were regulated, those could not be bought and sold as commodities above the price they were bought unlike subprime loans.  They also could not be categorized as AAA assets unlike subprime were during that time and sold 100 times more than their worth.  Because those banks falsely claimed and sold those mortgages as investment with a return way higher then they were worth, when those mortagates went belly up, a lot of business found themselves in possession of garbage, not the high quality AAA assets they were promised.  You say no bank would support subprime mortgages and you are right no bank would if they knew that is what they bought.  Like I said, you need to do your homework better.



massimus said:
Machiavellian said:

Lol, thats never going to happen in the US.  Way to much lobby money against it and way to many Republicans in Congress to ever let it pass.  I would personally open a thread saying I was wrong if Trump even attempted to something like this.  

Not any time soon on a federal level (thankfully) but I’m talking about a state level which is well within their right. The lobbying excuse again lol, it’s like the go to when people don’t have an answer apparently. Money in politics is bullshit, some communist just won in New York being outspent 10 to 1. Lobbying isn’t running the streets.

So you are saying that companies, governments and industries paying billions of dollars within these lobby groups are wasting their money.  They are just throwing that money away and its not getting them what they want.  You seem to be a businessman but you seem to be really quick to dismiss such investment.  Whatever, no one just spend money for no gain.



Someone feels good about him



Machiavellian said:
massimus said:

Not any time soon on a federal level (thankfully) but I’m talking about a state level which is well within their right. The lobbying excuse again lol, it’s like the go to when people don’t have an answer apparently. Money in politics is bullshit, some communist just won in New York being outspent 10 to 1. Lobbying isn’t running the streets.

So you are saying that companies, governments and industries paying billions of dollars within these lobby groups are wasting their money.  They are just throwing that money away and its not getting them what they want.  You seem to be a businessman but you seem to be really quick to dismiss such investment.  Whatever, no one just spend money for no gain.

No, you are implying that the only reason those ideas are rarely considered is because of bribery. No business or lobby can compete with federal debt and a stupid congress. These idiots spend more of OUR money than anyone in history. Peope don’t have to be paid to disagree with you on single payer lol. I’m not saying that lobbying isn’t influential either, I speak against these idiots along side you.Just not the one you really want hanged. I think it’s great he’s pissing those idiots off and laying reasonable policy at the same time. Go talk shit to Merkel I love it lol. Things are getting better economically, I guess that’s why it’s amusing to me. I don’t see the apocalyptic side of things like some do.

 

Lol Yeah I don’t know who you support, I know who you hate though. I linked to something stupid Pelosi said about the jobs numbers and you deflected it back to Trump. I took the quick defense as support, if not my mistake. I’m not a “white nationalist” and I’m not an “open border communist” either, I believe in the constitutional republic system and free market capitalism, etc. That’s at the center of all of my political views. You can’t have open borders and be a welfare state, it’s an economic thing not a social one. I think marijuana should be legalized, marry who you want, I don’t care about the social things. That’s personal shit the feds shouldn’t be involved in. A state can ban weed if they want, gambling, we already do. The federal over-regulation is stepping on 10th amendment rights in my view.It’s much easier to change your state government than it is to fight these retarded fed battles and that’s by design. Like the New York chick crushing the incumbent in the primary with no funding. Now she has funding AFTER winning lol. No lobby gave a shit about her besides maybe Soros lol. She didn’t need to be paid to be the Bernie youth, that’s just how she sees things. 

 

The scotus has gotten too powerful if the fate of our country hinges on one robe. That’s not how it works and the institution has been ruined. 4 “by letter and precedent” originalists vs 4 “living, breathing document” progressives. And the “tie breaker” for every single issue, it’s pathetic. I support terms limits on scotus justices and every other politician. It should be mandatory. That’s the way the system was designed, it’s glorified jury duty not a fucking career right? They don’t do shit but fundraise, spout rhetoric and waste money. Lobbying isn’t the problem, it’s the apathy of voter turnout in local and state elections. It’s almost like people only show up for the presidential vote. 



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This photo speaks volumes about the the NATO relationships -



CartBlanche said:
This photo speaks volumes about the the NATO relationships -

Wait until he meets Putin in a few days and does a total 180 on what he's been saying. Just normal Trump behaviour.



CartBlanche said:
CartBlanche said:
This photo speaks volumes about the the NATO relationships -

Wait until he meets Putin in a few days and does a total 180 on what he's been saying. Just normal Trump behaviour.

Exactly. To be honest, I'm still so surprised that he is still quite popular in the USA. Where things so bad under Obama or was it really that the people from the United States of Amerika thought Hilary was an even worse choice?



Open border communist? What the fuck even?

You think the EPA does nothing worthwhile, someone doesn't know how fucked up the environment was getting back in the second half of the twentieth century. It didn't fix itself and it wasn't corporate America cleaning up its own mess either.



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