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Forums - Politics Discussion - Donald Trump: How Do You Feel about Him Now? (Poll)

 

Last November,

I supported him and I still do - Americas 91 15.77%
 
I supported him and I now don't - Americas 16 2.77%
 
I supported him and I still do - Europe 37 6.41%
 
I supported him and I now don't - Europe 7 1.21%
 
I supported him and I still do - Asia 6 1.04%
 
I supported him and I now don't - Asia 1 0.17%
 
I supported him and I still do - RoW 15 2.60%
 
I supported him and I now don't - RoW 2 0.35%
 
I didn't support him and still don't. 373 64.64%
 
I didn't support him and now do. 29 5.03%
 
Total:577
specialk on 06 December 2017

Superman4 said: 

In regards to statues, they have been around and just fine for decades with nobody saying a word. Only when it becomes the thing to do does everyone get all offended and call for their removal.

You haven't been paying attention. 



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Dark_Lord_2008 on 06 December 2017

Trump was elected as President because he convinced people he loves America and we all know he is a good Capitalist and a successful billionaire/media personality. Trump managed to convince American people that Clinton is a Communist who hates America. It was Americans love affair for Capitalism that elected Trump as President.



Superman4 on 06 December 2017
SpokenTruth said:
Superman4 said:

Im sure some people were pissed when Obama got elected but it was nothing like what the Dems and LIberals did and continue to do. Not to mention I remember a church being lit on fire by Democrat supporters and swastikas etc. being painted on the walls to make it look like it was a Trump supporter.  

In regards to statues, they have been around and just fine for decades with nobody saying a word. Only when it becomes the thing to do does everyone get all offended and call for their removal.

Your selective memory is not a valuable trait.  You made two major suppositions that are so false they could be used as text book cases.

At this point, I can only conclude you have no intention of debating in facts, truth and reality.  I hope there is bliss in such ignorance because it sounds like an utter hell.


I would you link you to a whole historical record of contrary information but there is so much of it that I'm just going to give you a starting point.
www.google.com

Well lets see, I voted for Obama twice and while their were pissed off people and racists doing stupid shit it was nothing like what we had to deal with after Trump was elected. Not to mention what we are still dealing with in the media with the constant spin and attacks. I never thought I would see the day the Fox news was more newsworthy than CNN.



Errorist76 on 07 December 2017
Dark_Lord_2008 said:
Trump was elected as President because he convinced people he loves America and we all know he is a good Capitalist and a successful billionaire/media personality. Trump managed to convince American people that Clinton is a Communist who hates America. It was Americans love affair for Capitalism that elected Trump as President.

Trump was succesful?! Despite being the son of an incredibly rich real-estate agent, who made his money from from state financed projects, once in power he basically ran the company against the wall and it could only be saved with the help of 70 banks!
Two of his Casinos were already bankrupt before he went to the stock market. 2004 the whole casino branch was insolvent and could only be re-animated with the use of 70 millions of Trump family money. 

The guy is simply good in two things...Conning people and making himself bigger than he really is. And yeah, a lot of Americans are easy to con.



S.T.A.G.E. on 07 December 2017
Superman4 said:
Psyberius said:

Oh there's no doubt about that. Half of everything even at the beginning of the 19th century still considered slavery if not forcing people of different ethnicity into enclaves together and jobs that paid a fraction a white person would get.

Did Trump ever retract his not exactly condemnation in Charlottesville?  Nope, not one single bit despite the damage what his words created. WHY? The Trumpbase wasn't really affected by him not condemning it...if anything there were more Trumpites with the white supremacists so he was just protecting his people.

Trumps comment was actually spot on. Not everyone in Charlottesville was a racist looking for violence. Yes you had some racists in the crowd that got the blood boiling of the counter protesters but it was the counter protesters that were infringing on the racists freedom of speech and expression. The hate is from both sides and it is what led to the end result, one of the racists driving their car through the crowd and killing someone. You had peaceful people on both sides of that protest and you had violent people on both sides. Don't forget it is the "non-racist" left that were the ones protesting and rioting when Trump won. They were the ones damaging property and assaulting people. They are also the ones that continue to riot and assault whenever someone from the right wants to speak.

The hate came from the side of the racists. They were chanting in the streets that jews (or you...for minorities) will not replace us. These people rely on ignorant people to let them get a pass. Thats how tyranny wins. No one wanted to replace them. Counter-protesters are only stepping up because they don't like to hear these people threaten the lively hood of others with their thoughts. The person who drove a car into the peaceful counter-protest that was apart of the alt right and his mother didnt even know his political alignment. His mother had just found out what was going on with him and was none the wiser. Trump blamed both sides because he does not want to call the Alt Right by their name and tell them what the started. If they had just simply protested the statues being taken down, it would've been fine. They brought their prejudice into it and took it to the streets.

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Superman4 on 08 December 2017
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Superman4 said:

Trumps comment was actually spot on. Not everyone in Charlottesville was a racist looking for violence. Yes you had some racists in the crowd that got the blood boiling of the counter protesters but it was the counter protesters that were infringing on the racists freedom of speech and expression. The hate is from both sides and it is what led to the end result, one of the racists driving their car through the crowd and killing someone. You had peaceful people on both sides of that protest and you had violent people on both sides. Don't forget it is the "non-racist" left that were the ones protesting and rioting when Trump won. They were the ones damaging property and assaulting people. They are also the ones that continue to riot and assault whenever someone from the right wants to speak.

The hate came from the side of the racists. They were chanting in the streets that jews (or you...for minorities) will not replace us. These people rely on ignorant people to let them get a pass. Thats how tyranny wins. No one wanted to replace them. Counter-protesters are only stepping up because they don't like to hear these people threaten the lively hood of others with their thoughts. The person who drove a car into the peaceful counter-protest that was apart of the alt right and his mother didnt even know his political alignment. His mother had just found out what was going on with him and was none the wiser. Trump blamed both sides because he does not want to call the Alt Right by their name and tell them what the started. If they had just simply protested the statues being taken down, it would've been fine. They brought their prejudice into it and took it to the streets.

Thats BS. The counter protesters started throwing rocks and assaulting the protesters. That is what started the violence. Again, you don't have to like what people say but that doesn't give you the right to assault them. If you do then be prepared to be assaulted back. It doesn't matter what they were saying or how offensive it was, they have the right to say it and to demonstrate it. That's how free speech works. Based on your logic I should burn down all the churches since I don't like to hear them threaten humanity by spewing BS messages to people and turn them into mindless buffoons praying to the sky for help with their bills.



Psyberius on 08 December 2017
Dark_Lord_2008 said:
Trump was elected as President because he convinced people he loves America and we all know he is a good Capitalist and a successful billionaire/media personality. Trump managed to convince American people that Clinton is a Communist who hates America. It was Americans love affair for Capitalism that elected Trump as President.

Actually it was Clinton not responding to the "Crooked Hillary" thing. If she had fired back with a slogan, she would have had enough to win but Trump convinced about 10% of the people who don't read anything to do with HIM or HIS past/politics to vote for him just on that slogan alone. I mean...OF COURSE she's crooked...Trump said so right? And damnit they didn't know what a tweet was but they sure heard a LOT of them calling Hillary CROOKED.

 

Just lies on top of lies on top of lies. It's coming out now though. Depends on what the Rep's do about their "fear making your bowels water" leader. Are they going to play "afraid to lose my spot so I help the lie" or are they going to "lose my spot but do whats right in outing the sumbitch."

Errorist76 said: 
Dark_Lord_2008 said: 
Trump was elected as President because he convinced people he loves America and we all know he is a good Capitalist and a successful billionaire/media personality. Trump managed to convince American people that Clinton is a Communist who hates America. It was Americans love affair for Capitalism that elected Trump as President.

Trump was succesful?! Despite being the son of an incredibly rich real-estate agent, who made his money from from state financedprojects, once in power he basically ran the company against the wall and it could only be saved with the help of 70 banks!
Two of his Casinos were already bankrupt before he went to the stock market. 2004 the whole casino branch was insolvent and could only be re-animated with the use of 70 millions of Trump family money. 

The guy is simply good in two things...Conning people and making himself bigger than he really is. And yeah, a lot of Americans are easy to con.

Sadly with yet another thing that was fail by Hillary...she should have been AAAAALLL over this bankruptcies but she didn't. She played politics while trump played to win.



KManX89 on 09 December 2017
SpokenTruth said:
Superman4 said:

Well lets see, I voted for Obama twice and while their were pissed off people and racists doing stupid shit it was nothing like what we had to deal with after Trump was elected. Not to mention what we are still dealing with in the media with the constant spin and attacks. I never thought I would see the day the Fox news was more newsworthy than CNN.

You can relax, that day still hasn't arrived.

Fox News, the "fair and balanced" news network that actually defends their right to lie on the air-and banned in several countries because they do.

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Superman4 on 09 December 2017
KManX89 said:
SpokenTruth said:

You can relax, that day still hasn't arrived.

Fox News, the "fair and balanced" news network that actually defends their right to lie on the air-and banned in several countries because they do.

And what countries might those be? Fox isnt perfect by any means, they have bias on a number of shows. They are however overall much better than CNN at this point. CNN is damn near unwatchable at this point with the amount of opinion vs fact they spew. Its more along the lines of a talk show network than a news network. 



Errorist76 on 09 December 2017
Superman4 said:
KManX89 said:

Fox News, the "fair and balanced" news network that actually defends their right to lie on the air-and banned in several countries because they do.

And what countries might those be? Fox isnt perfect by any means, they have bias on a number of shows. They are however overall much better than CNN at this point. CNN is damn near unwatchable at this point with the amount of opinion vs fact they spew. Its more along the lines of a talk show network than a news network. 

I hope you’re not calling Faux News a news network?!