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Forums - Politics - Donald Trump: How Do You Feel about Him Now? (Poll)

 

Last November,

I supported him and I still do - Americas 91 15.77%
 
I supported him and I now don't - Americas 16 2.77%
 
I supported him and I still do - Europe 37 6.41%
 
I supported him and I now don't - Europe 7 1.21%
 
I supported him and I still do - Asia 6 1.04%
 
I supported him and I now don't - Asia 1 0.17%
 
I supported him and I still do - RoW 15 2.60%
 
I supported him and I now don't - RoW 2 0.35%
 
I didn't support him and still don't. 373 64.64%
 
I didn't support him and now do. 29 5.03%
 
Total:577

I'm surprised nobody's mentioned Trump's hush money reimbursement check Cohen showed the House. That's about as close to a smoking gun as I can think of for the campaign finance law violations, assuming it's legit, of course. A subpoena of the bank records should be sent to verify his claims.



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Mr_Destiny said:
I'm surprised nobody's mentioned Trump's hush money reimbursement check Cohen showed the House. That's about as close to a smoking gun as I can think of for the campaign finance law violations, assuming it's legit, of course. A subpoena of the bank records should be sent to verify his claims.

If we need to do that to make it legit it can not be legit right ? :p



SpokenTruth said:
SuaveSocialist said:

And despite thinking it so unlikely, you backed away from launching a nuclear strike on your second point.  Though using conventional weapons is an entirely different scenario, it looks like I answered your initial question to your satisfaction.

I told him the same thing several posts ago to no response. 

Sounds like his question was not asked in good faith, then.  I suspected as much when his reply leaned heavily into wishful thinking while ignoring the political and strategic realities of the NK situation.



https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/trump-budget-include-100m-daughter-ivanka-s-women-s-fund-n980881
This is waste of taxpayer money. The money should be invested into our own country not women in other countries. Flint still does not have clean water but instead were wasting money to help other countries. smh.



Bofferbrauer2 said:
Snoopy said:

1. In the video you posted, they stated that if you don't have insurance you get charged fake prices because you can't choose who gets to perform certain tasks such as surgery. This is what happens when a corrupt federal government is in charge. Instead giving power to the state government and the states allow companies to bid who gets to surgeries, chemo, therapy, etc. 

Actually, that gets avoided when the government is in charge, just look at any country in the world other than the US. Companies already bid who gets surgeries, therapies and so on by gouging the shit out of the people, in other words if you don't have money you're fucked.

The government doesn't discriminate here, and has a far bigger and better position to negotiate the prices for medicine than any company does. Not only represent they the entirety of the US citizens and not just parts of it, which allows for more severe negotiating tactics (like telling them to lower the prices or risking not allowing the medicine on the market, period), it doesn't disallow private insurance like it's so often stated. The federal government would set the baseline, and any private insurer would just have to improve upon them (like, offering private rooms instead of shared ones) to justify paying extra for them.

@bolded: Well, why voting a corrupt executive into President in the first place, then?

 

The federal government is in charge. They literally created ACA and set the guidelines. This is why our founding fathers wanted to limit the federal government. Also,  no one is going to be denied treatment. You can be an illegal immigrant and still get treatment. If the states had power, we can create competition, therefore lower the cost of hospitals. We've seen industries with the least amount of federal regulations is also the cheapest.



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Immersiveunreality said:
Mr_Destiny said:
I'm surprised nobody's mentioned Trump's hush money reimbursement check Cohen showed the House. That's about as close to a smoking gun as I can think of for the campaign finance law violations, assuming it's legit, of course. A subpoena of the bank records should be sent to verify his claims.

If we need to do that to make it legit it can not be legit right ? :p

Hey, I like to cover all my bases. I sincerely doubt it's a forgery--someone's gonna examine the check, signature, bank records, etc. Cohen knows he's screwed if they find out it's fake.

Snoopy said: 

The federal government is in charge. They literally created ACA and set the guidelines. This is why our founding fathers wanted to limit the federal government. Also,  no one is going to be denied treatment. You can be an illegal immigrant and still get treatment. If the states had power, we can create competition, therefore lower the cost of hospitals. We've seen industries with the least amount of federal regulations is also the cheapest.

The ACA exerts much less power over the healthcare system than one might think. For one thing, it has no mechanism to control prices--insurance companies still name their premiums, deductibles, co-pays, etc. with no interference from the feds. What it does do is...

  • provide a subsidy to cover some amount of the premium, depending on things like your income and the size of your household (only applies to lower incomes)
  • expand federal Medicaid eligibility for people with middle incomes
  • categorize every healthcare plan on some handy websites (healthcare.gov, coveredca.com, etc.) to make it easy to comparison shop and encourage competition.
  • set bare minimums for what health insurance covers so people don't go buying the cheapest plans only to discover they cover next to nothing.
  • outlaw lifetime caps on what insurance pays for--it used to be if a company spent more than an arbitrary amount on your healthcare, they would simply stop covering anything at all.
  • outlaw the exclusion of people with pre-existing conditions.
  • force everyone to have health insurance or pay a fine. There wouldn't be enough money spent on premiums if people only buy insurance when they get sick or old.
  • fund all of this with higher taxes on individuals making ~$100k+ a year, families making ~$130k+ a year, and I believe a capital gains tax hike. (I may not have those figures exact but it's what I remember reading).
It does not...
  • control the ultimate cost of insurance.
  • run a system of government hospitals and doctors.
  • dictate how much health insurance companies can or cannot charge, since the feds cover most of it anyway.
  • force those companies to change their networks, force hospitals to keep/fire certain doctors, or change any other internal health insurance or hospital matter.
I'd go into the efforts to sabotage the law, but this post is too long already.


Mr_Destiny said:
Immersiveunreality said:

If we need to do that to make it legit it can not be legit right ? :p

Hey, I like to cover all my bases. I sincerely doubt it's a forgery--someone's gonna examine the check, signature, bank records, etc. Cohen knows he's screwed if they find out it's fake.

Snoopy said: 

The federal government is in charge. They literally created ACA and set the guidelines. This is why our founding fathers wanted to limit the federal government. Also,  no one is going to be denied treatment. You can be an illegal immigrant and still get treatment. If the states had power, we can create competition, therefore lower the cost of hospitals. We've seen industries with the least amount of federal regulations is also the cheapest.

The ACA exerts much less power over the healthcare system than one might think. For one thing, it has no mechanism to control prices--insurance companies still name their premiums, deductibles, co-pays, etc. with no interference from the feds. What it does do is...

  • provide a subsidy to cover some amount of the premium, depending on things like your income and the size of your household (only applies to lower incomes)
  • expand federal Medicaid eligibility for people with middle incomes
  • categorize every healthcare plan on some handy websites (healthcare.gov, coveredca.com, etc.) to make it easy to comparison shop and encourage competition.
  • set bare minimums for what health insurance covers so people don't go buying the cheapest plans only to discover they cover next to nothing.
  • outlaw lifetime caps on what insurance pays for--it used to be if a company spent more than an arbitrary amount on your healthcare, they would simply stop covering anything at all.
  • outlaw the exclusion of people with pre-existing conditions.
  • force everyone to have health insurance or pay a fine. There wouldn't be enough money spent on premiums if people only buy insurance when they get sick or old.
  • fund all of this with higher taxes on individuals making ~$100k+ a year, families making ~$130k+ a year, and I believe a capital gains tax hike. (I may not have those figures exact but it's what I remember reading).
It does not...
  • control the ultimate cost of insurance.
  • run a system of government hospitals and doctors.
  • dictate how much health insurance companies can or cannot charge, since the feds cover most of it anyway.
  • force those companies to change their networks, force hospitals to keep/fire certain doctors, or change any other internal health insurance or hospital matter.
I'd go into the efforts to sabotage the law, but this post is too long already.

I will go through all your points later this week, but it does control the cost of insurance because under ACA insurance companies must cover certain items. Which means insurance prices will go up. Which it did.



The Leftists only want free speech when they can make their unrealistic demands and complain about everything. Pro-Trump and conservative right majority are sick and tired of the Leftists that do nothing but complain. President Trump is draining the swamp and changing America for the better. President Trump and reduced unemployment rates significantly during his 2 year reign as President and the US economy the envy of the world.

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Dark_Lord_2008 said:
The Leftists only want free speech when they can make their unrealistic demands and complain about everything. Pro-Trump and conservative right majority are sick and tired of the Leftists that do nothing but complain. President Trump is draining the swamp and changing America for the better. President Trump and reduced unemployment rates significantly during his 2 year reign as President and the US economy the envy of the world.

@bolded: From 4.6% end of 2016 down to 4.0% now, really big change.

@italic: How is that different from some right-wingers who whine about everything that doesn't fit their agenda and try to undermine it with lies and insults, and if that doesn't work, shut them down and silence them? Also, total generalization, as if everybody on the left would act like that. 

What demands do you deem unrealistic? Serious question, just want to know which ones specifically and why.

@underlined: With the growing debt and financing gap? Not really. GDP ain't everything, it must be sustainable, too.And the way this going is not sustainable. It's built on debt when not in recession, something that never get's done as that is the fast way into bankruptcy. 

September will be the end of this debt growth for a couple weeks at least as then it hits the debt ceiling, and with how deeply dug in the fronts are, I don't see it resolving any much faster than the last shutdown.

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Dark_Lord_2008 said:
The Leftists only want free speech when they can make their unrealistic demands and complain about everything. Pro-Trump and conservative right majority are sick and tired of the Leftists that do nothing but complain. President Trump is draining the swamp and changing America for the better. President Trump and reduced unemployment rates significantly during his 2 year reign as President and the US economy the envy of the world.

A faulthy generalisation that can be made by all groups about all groups.

Some people complain,some people make unrealistic demands but it is not concentrated only on one side but if you focus on conservative news you might percieve it that way ofcourse.