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Forums - Politics - Donald Trump: How Do You Feel about Him Now? (Poll)

 

Last November,

I supported him and I still do - Americas 91 15.77%
 
I supported him and I now don't - Americas 16 2.77%
 
I supported him and I still do - Europe 37 6.41%
 
I supported him and I now don't - Europe 7 1.21%
 
I supported him and I still do - Asia 6 1.04%
 
I supported him and I now don't - Asia 1 0.17%
 
I supported him and I still do - RoW 15 2.60%
 
I supported him and I now don't - RoW 2 0.35%
 
I didn't support him and still don't. 373 64.64%
 
I didn't support him and now do. 29 5.03%
 
Total:577
Machiavellian said:
jason1637 said:

Thats my point. Why become President when he can make more by running his businesses. ven if you give a tax cut it will be undone when the other party comes into power.

He still is running his business and he still benefits from them while changing policy that make his business richer.  I really am not sure why you cannot see this.  Did you forget that Trump did not put his business into a blind trust.

So as president, Trump can and has removed regulations to increase his business bottom line.  The tax cut and inheritance tax gives him a means to gain millions for years.  Being president has caused a huge increase in foreign dignitaries, lobbyist and republicans staying at his DC hotel not to mention his other properties.

As I stated before, you would have a point if Trump actually did divest from his businesses and put it into a blind trust but since he did not he is still in control and still gains wealth from them.  Him not running the day to day events doesn't mean he isn't making a killing.

Even if another President comes into office in his mind he will be serving for 8 years.  That's one tidy sum he would be netting for nearly a decade.  Even 4 years would still be huge compared to the salary of a President.  

I thought he gave up running his business? Ife he is still running them yeah then thats pretty smart to run for President so you can make more. It's also low key shady too.



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the-pi-guy said:
TH3-D0S3R said:

The most traumatic moment in my life was by far when my parents got divorced. This idea of not being able to memorize ideas that you repress is bullshit. I still remember exact details of how it happened (I dont know the exact day number since that wasn't important but I know it took place in the month of April). This idea that you can't remember memories that you repress is stupid purely for the fact that you must constantly remember the even in order to push it down. I remember the time of day, the day of the week, how I left my classes when I found out, where I was told it, how we pulled away from the school, and where I went afterwards.

I must add that I have repressed these thoughts for about 8 years now, and when it comes to basic memory I'm only good at memorizing tidbits of information. In other words my general memorization skills are shit. On top of that whenever I talk to people, 99% of them can remember everything around their own worst moment(s) in life.

first bold:
You are not describing repressed memories, because that's not what they are.  

An actual repressed memory is a memory you can't even remember.  

second bold:

And how exactly do you measure what their worst moments in life are?  What if there was a worse moment in their life that they absolutely did not remember any details about?  You wouldn't know.    

And how do you measure how much they remember around their worst moments? 

I can't remember hardly anything around the worst few moments of my life, and I have a far better memory than most people.  

Snoopy said:

1. Yes, because we allow the Federal Government to control everything instead of giving more rights to the state government.

2. Because it's one of the many examples of contradictions. She is willing to fly during a vacation, but when it is something more important she is "conveniently scared of flying" lol.

2b.)Elizabeth is supposedly running for 2020 president and just another example of Democrats making themselves look bad. 

3. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8aqCOEEPEi4

1.  That doesn't address the comment.  Other federal governments are better able to reduce prices than our country.  
And that's not true anyways.  When it comes to healthcare, federal government has more ability to reduce prices.  

2.)  That's not a contradiction.  I have little doubt that I would feel the exact same way in her position.  I hate flying, and I hate public speaking.  

If I had to fly somewhere to have part of my life disected, I'd be fricken horrified.  

This here is what I don't understand.  "She must be lying", despite the fact that plenty of honest people would have the same kind of justifications thrown at them.


2b.)  Elizabeth Warren, what she says or does doesn't matter.  Democrats aren't a giant body where one decision gets made and it gets reflected on everyone.  

3.)  A "trade deficit" is not being ripped off.  

That is inherently false according to the American Psychology Association

https://www.apa.org/topics/trauma/memories

What you're thinking of is false memories, or sensationalized ideas that likely dont exist due to urges in the mind. Repressed memories are only achievable by an incredibly small minority of the population, and even then it is just a subconscious act that allows them to live without thinking about it. Odds are if you brought it up they would still likely remember details about said repressed memory. A majority of people can at least recall SOME if not all of a repressed memory. There may be bits and pieces that aren't clearly remembered, but you are likely to remember SOMETHING about it. This goes for sexual assault too.

Either way repressing memories is far less common then people will accept (the article itself says there was only one case that happened involving this in a 20 year span).



Immersiveunreality said:
PortisheadBiscuit said:

Nope, your mental gymnastics are Olympic level...no interest in continuing a discussion headed no where :) 

I guess your mental gymnastics are a good example in showing its real uses . ;)

So profound -_-



jason1637 said:
Machiavellian said:

He still is running his business and he still benefits from them while changing policy that make his business richer.  I really am not sure why you cannot see this.  Did you forget that Trump did not put his business into a blind trust.

So as president, Trump can and has removed regulations to increase his business bottom line.  The tax cut and inheritance tax gives him a means to gain millions for years.  Being president has caused a huge increase in foreign dignitaries, lobbyist and republicans staying at his DC hotel not to mention his other properties.

As I stated before, you would have a point if Trump actually did divest from his businesses and put it into a blind trust but since he did not he is still in control and still gains wealth from them.  Him not running the day to day events doesn't mean he isn't making a killing.

Even if another President comes into office in his mind he will be serving for 8 years.  That's one tidy sum he would be netting for nearly a decade.  Even 4 years would still be huge compared to the salary of a President.  

I thought he gave up running his business? Ife he is still running them yeah then thats pretty smart to run for President so you can make more. It's also low key shady too.

Nah, he stepped down from head operations of his business and gave the roles to his sons. 



TH3-D0S3R said:
the-pi-guy said:

first bold:
You are not describing repressed memories, because that's not what they are.  

An actual repressed memory is a memory you can't even remember.  

second bold:

And how exactly do you measure what their worst moments in life are?  What if there was a worse moment in their life that they absolutely did not remember any details about?  You wouldn't know.    

And how do you measure how much they remember around their worst moments? 

I can't remember hardly anything around the worst few moments of my life, and I have a far better memory than most people.  

1.  That doesn't address the comment.  Other federal governments are better able to reduce prices than our country.  
And that's not true anyways.  When it comes to healthcare, federal government has more ability to reduce prices.  

2.)  That's not a contradiction.  I have little doubt that I would feel the exact same way in her position.  I hate flying, and I hate public speaking.  

If I had to fly somewhere to have part of my life disected, I'd be fricken horrified.  

This here is what I don't understand.  "She must be lying", despite the fact that plenty of honest people would have the same kind of justifications thrown at them.


2b.)  Elizabeth Warren, what she says or does doesn't matter.  Democrats aren't a giant body where one decision gets made and it gets reflected on everyone.  

3.)  A "trade deficit" is not being ripped off.  

That is inherently false according to the American Psychology Association

https://www.apa.org/topics/trauma/memories

What you're thinking of is false memories, or sensationalized ideas that likely dont exist due to urges in the mind. Repressed memories are only achievable by an incredibly small minority of the population, and even then it is just a subconscious act that allows them to live without thinking about it. Odds are if you brought it up they would still likely remember details about said repressed memory. A majority of people can at least recall SOME if not all of a repressed memory. There may be bits and pieces that aren't clearly remembered, but you are likely to remember SOMETHING about it. This goes for sexual assault too.

Either way repressing memories is far less common then people will accept (the article itself says there was only one case that happened involving this in a 20 year span).

Indeed,its needs active mental involvement to be slightly able to repress a memory.

Repressing a memory is trying to put it away from reality in its own box but the box still has holes in it for you to see what is inside.



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TH3-D0S3R said:
jason1637 said:

I thought he gave up running his business? Ife he is still running them yeah then thats pretty smart to run for President so you can make more. It's also low key shady too.

Nah, he stepped down from head operations of his business and gave the roles to his sons. 

Only thing that means is that he isn't running day to day business which at 70 he probably wasn't doing anyway.  Since he did not divest from his company or put it into a blind Trust, he is still running it.  The Trump org isn't a corporation and doesn't have a board.  Trump is the owner of the company and he can hire whoever he wants to run it but he still controls  it.



I'm not a fan of Trump the man.  Clearly he has a seedy side from his past. 

But Trump and his policy has been very good. 

He kept his big promises by invigorating the economy, not by artificially doing trillions of dollars in deficit spending, but by having private investment come back to the U.S. and start and grow businesses. He is also finally the first president to stand up to the Chinese and the geopolitical and economic crap they've been doing.  He's placed constitutionalist judges on the Supreme Court and other courts.  He has cut through the over-abundance of politically correct nonsense and identity politics.  He's protected religious freedom.  Lastly he has bolstered the military priorities.

Until the Democrats have a candidate who wants to actually be President of  United States and not President of the World, Trump has got my vote again.



Snoopy said:
the-pi-guy said:

Bernie isn't a socialist.  Regardless of what he calls himself.  

There's a reason why other countries are passing us when it comes to healthcare.  It's not stupid to try making the improvements other countries have made.

Plenty of people go their whole lives without coming forward about assaults that happened to them.  

Personally, I would find it more suspicious if she happened to remember everything 35 years later.  She didn't even bother to come up with a lie.  

Delaying the process doesn't benefit Democrats.  Not unless it could get delayed some 2+ years.  

America is hurting because of the trade wars.  

We're selling less product and companies are spending more to import.  

1. The reason why health care is so expensive is because of too much federal government control.

2. I never said she had to remember everything, just key parts like what happened afterward. Not to mention other suspicious things such as being scared to fly except when she is on vacation... Another example of Democrats failing is when Elizabeth Warren claimed she was Native American lol.

3. No, we are not hurting because of trade wars. China has been ripping us off for way too long. They will have no choice, but to give in to our demands. In fact, China's economy is so bad right now that the wealthy people from China are investing in the United States/Canada real estate lol.

Here is an article with Ben Shapiro explaining everything about why Democrats delayed the hearing.

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/ben-shapiro-kavanaugh-allegations-are-business-as-usual-for-democrats-they-have-a-long-history-of-smears

1. Then how come that every other country which has much more government control over health care is far in front of the US in every metric (service, waiting times, prices)?

Governments are in a much stronger position to negotiate prices down with the pharma industry than private health care companies do (they handle whole countries instead of just fractions of them, and can effectively wield the banhammer, saying either you bring it cheaper or not at all, an option private companies simply not have. They can also negotiate for lower prices in hospitals with similar tactics.

However, the US will always be a bit more expensive as doctors tend to earn much more in the US then elsewhere, driving total healthcare prices up along with their wage.

3. China is investing pretty much everywhere right now. It's not because the country is collapsing, but has more to do with new regulations to stop inflating the housing  bubble in China. Another reason is that due to the increasing housing prices in China buying in US cities is now actually quite a bit cheaper than in the big Chinese cities (where you sometimes must deposit 750k$+ just to be admitted to a lottery to get a condo unit then sold to the winners of the lottery at approx. 2.6 million dollar). The elderly got screwed over by inflation, and the young Chinese are buying condos left and right to protect against inflation. And since they get so expensive in China now, buying abroad is the best solution for them.

Or in other words, the Chinese are investing in the US because the US housings are the cheap product now.



True to form and wasting no time, we see Trump doing what Trump does best, blame someone else for his failure. Now who didn't see this coming.

https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/politics/ct-trump-blames-cohen-testimony-north-korea-summit-20190304-story.html



cycycychris said:
CosmicSex said:

The members deserve to know why one group get to spread its hate and lies unchallenged and the offended group can't even stand up for itself with accurate facts without a moderate telling them to stay in their place and take it. Its unbecoming and the bias on display is counter to the rules of the thread. 

I'm not saying you can no longer challenge false facts. I'm just saying that some these arguments are getting to personal and there are resorting to name calling. Stuff like calling other members idiot, stupid, nut-jobs, etc. If you want a perfect example of killing false facts with evidence look right above you at Pi-guys post. Ultimately if you think a post might be breaking the rules, feel free to report it. Anyways if you wish to talk more about this feel free to PM me.

Thank you for clarifying.