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zorg1000 on 01 December 2017
mysteryman said:
Kerotan said:

Funny how painting the whole picture for you doesn't include things like heavily aging population, long work hours, small apartments, handhelds suit lifestyle far more.

So what your saying is the PS4 wasn't really designed for the Japanese lifestyle?

I dont think he realized his argument actually supports what i was saying.



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ironmanDX on 01 December 2017

 

Come at me, bro.



zorg1000 on 01 December 2017
ironmanDX said:

 

Come at me, bro.

You need a picture of Switch after Sagawa



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ironmanDX on 01 December 2017

Yeah, I was going to have a separate pic of the Switch but on my phone at work.



Kerotan on 02 December 2017
mysteryman said:
Kerotan said:

Funny how painting the whole picture for you doesn't include things like heavily aging population, long work hours, small apartments, handhelds suit lifestyle far more.

So what your saying is the PS4 wasn't really designed for the Japanese lifestyle?

It was designed to suit the lifestyles of roughly 10m Japanese who bought it. It would need to be portable to suit the needs of 20m+ lifestyles in Japan. 



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mysteryman on 02 December 2017
Kerotan said:
mysteryman said:

So what your saying is the PS4 wasn't really designed for the Japanese lifestyle?

It was designed to suit the lifestyles of roughly 10m Japanese who bought it. It would need to be portable to suit the needs of 20m+ lifestyles in Japan. 

Have 10 million PS4s been sold in Japan?



Alby_da_Wolf on 02 December 2017
mysteryman said:
Kerotan said:

It was designed to suit the lifestyles of roughly 10m Japanese who bought it. It would need to be portable to suit the needs of 20m+ lifestyles in Japan. 

Have 10 million PS4s been sold in Japan?

My same doubt. Either he's citing PS3 instead of PS4 numbers, or he's estimating a little less than 2 users per console for the 5.3M+ PS4 already sold or he's predicting 10M lifetime sales for it.



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Alby_da_Wolf on 02 December 2017
zorg1000 said:
mysteryman said:

So what your saying is the PS4 wasn't really designed for the Japanese lifestyle?

I dont think he realized his argument actually supports what i was saying.

A superslim version could solve the small apartment issue, except that issue is actually true in Japan only for the average downtown apartment in big cities, so that solution would increase sales almost only for Japanese general love for slim and sleek consoles, and only marginally really for the apartment issue.
As I wrote a few comments earlier http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8645144 , IMVHO next gen Sony should include ALSO a hybrid version in its PS5 range. This implies launching it not earlier than 2020. A hybrid has the potential to solve also different problems from those solved for Ninty, for Sony it could save its position in the portable market, and doing this it would save Japanese sales too.



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Kerotan on 02 December 2017
Alby_da_Wolf said:
mysteryman said:

Have 10 million PS4s been sold in Japan?

My same doubt. Either he's citing PS3 instead of PS4 numbers, or he's estimating a little less than 2 users per console for the 5.3M+ PS4 already sold or he's predicting 10M lifetime sales for it.

Predicting 10m for it.



Kerotan on 02 December 2017
Kyuu said:
Alby_da_Wolf said:

As I wrote in other threads, IMVHO next gen Sony will have to partially follow NS example. Partially as it won't have to make a totally hybrid choice, this would damage its sales in its strongest region, EU, but simply including a hybrid version in the range of next gen PS. This will require to launch it not earlier than in 2020, as even the hybrid version will have to consistently outperform base model PS4, when docked, but besides this there won't be other big obsatacles: both PS4 and XBOne use quite lightweight 2012-2013 tech AMD CPU cores, and CPU performance is the only part of performances that must be always delivered almost completely (a minor part is renounceable if there are optional services that can be turned off when undocked), while graphics can be delivered by a mobile GPU or the main APU's GPU greatly downclocked, when undocked. Great leaps made by latest AMD CPUs, GPUs and APUs make this goal easier to achieve, but it will take anyway some more years to allow mobile or ultraportable CPU cores to deliver the desired performance leap too, and some time will be necessary to devise and design the most suitable solution for graphics, either choosing AMD GPU cores that can switch between two quite different performance levels or include both a full performance mid-range GPU and a mobile one without an excessive cost increase. Quite likely, anyway, APUs with such features, just needing minor customisations for consoles, will be made by AMD for entry-level and mid-range desktop replacement laptops that won't need an additional GPU to run at full power when connected to the power grid. RAM and solid state storage won't obviously be a problem.

The problem with a hybrid SKU is that it would have no way to play the existing Bluray library, and I don't see it being a success with a digital only approach (especially in Japan).. not when game file sizes keep increasing.

If PS4 Hybrid (late 2019) exceeds Sony's expectations, then they might ditch Bluray in favor of cartridges with PS5. The downside (apart from the obvious) is the lack of full backwards compatibility some gamers are asking for. Then again, Switch and PS4's lack of BC didn't seem to harm them much. It'd make sense to go for cartridges if they plan to launch a portable SKU later down the road, wouldn't it?

Another way to go about it is to have a Bluray drive integrated into the dock, and you're given the ability to install your games into the hybrid's storage, which could require strict DRM of sorts.

Ps4 pro with no disk drive? Digital only with a 1 TB HDD ? 

 

I would have said 500gb but someone said recently it costs them less to produce 1TB.