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fielding88 on 26 November 2017
Goodnightmoon said:

This thread is hilarious, people getting ofended cause one random person on twitter got ofended by the sexism of a tale that has always been clearly sexist. "The world is doomed! She is a nazi! Political correctness will destroy us!" XD Sometimes it seems like we live in the age of stupidity but I guess is just the efect of internet giving voice to a mindblowing number of intelectually challenged people.

Just to piggyback on your succinct assessment of the events transpiring here...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman




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Qwark on 26 November 2017
Goodnightmoon said:
thismeintiel said:

National Socialists.  Yes, they were.  I know people on the left like to lump them with the right, just so the right has some big evils, too, but it's just not fact.  They wanted a big government to rule over the people with an iron fist, including businesses.  That's not a policy of the right.  Especially not the Conservative right.

This level of ignorance in 2017 is embarrassing, Nazis were never leftist, learn some history.

True but they certainly don't fall in line with right wing policy either as claimed by some leftist. National socialism is by definition a mixed bag of communism (control over businesses), extreme right (fuck you if you are not German) and extreme left (Every German deserves a decent quality of life and the state will  in a way provide that, untill the war). It turned out with a total shitty mixed bag, which doesn't fit into any special category but it's own.



Please excuse my (probally) poor grammar

o_O.Q on 26 November 2017
Goodnightmoon said:
thismeintiel said:

National Socialists.  Yes, they were.  I know people on the left like to lump them with the right, just so the right has some big evils, too, but it's just not fact.  They wanted a big government to rule over the people with an iron fist, including businesses.  That's not a policy of the right.  Especially not the Conservative right.

This level of ignorance in 2017 is embarrassing, Nazis were never leftist, learn some history.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcinzmfZeCc

 

what was the aim of the nazi regime and what does leftism entail from your perspective? lets start there



o_O.Q on 26 November 2017
Qwark said:
Goodnightmoon said:

This level of ignorance in 2017 is embarrassing, Nazis were never leftist, learn some history.

True but they certainly don't fall in line with right wing policy either as claimed by some leftist. National socialism is by definition a mixed bag of communism (control over businesses), extreme right (fuck you if you are not German) and extreme left (Every German deserves a decent quality of life and the state will  in a way provide that, untill the war). It turned out with a total shitty mixed bag, which doesn't fit into any special category but it's own.

he's wrong, hitler was primarily a socialist... what a lot of people don't understand amazingly to me is that government control is leftist, it has always been leftist and it will always be leftist



o_O.Q on 26 November 2017
Goodnightmoon said:

This thread is hilarious, people getting ofended cause one random person on twitter got ofended by the sexism of a tale that has always been clearly sexist. "The world is doomed! She is a nazi! Political correctness will destroy us!" XD Sometimes it seems like we live in the age of stupidity but I guess is just the efect of internet giving voice to a mindblowing number of intelectually challenged people.

 

"people getting ofended cause one random person on twitter got ofended by the sexism of a tale that has always been clearly sexist."

 

when you are romantically involved with a woman, do you treat her the exact same way that you treat your male colleagues? if not doesn't that make you a sexist?



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VGPolyglot on 26 November 2017
o_O.Q said:
Qwark said:

True but they certainly don't fall in line with right wing policy either as claimed by some leftist. National socialism is by definition a mixed bag of communism (control over businesses), extreme right (fuck you if you are not German) and extreme left (Every German deserves a decent quality of life and the state will  in a way provide that, untill the war). It turned out with a total shitty mixed bag, which doesn't fit into any special category but it's own.

he's wrong, hitler was primarily a socialist... what a lot of people don't understand amazingly to me is that government control is leftist, it has always been leftist and it will always be leftist

Ah, so I assume you aren't an anarchist, so that means I'm right wing while you're left wing, since I support a stateless society. So, Hitler is on the same end of the spectrum as you are.



Flilix on 26 November 2017
VGPolyglot said:
BasilZero said:


If it was so, then the worst thing in the world would have been subdued quickly because it would be the sole thing focused on and anything under it would come next, be focused on and taken care of, and so forth....in a perfect and sane world (of course this is a theory :p) - sadly in this world you got clowns and jokers like in the OP's source making a big fuss over something that really isnt relevant to society in this day and age while much worst things are being made or being done and is smoothly pushed aside.

When your biggest news channel makes a big deal out of a world leader playing Golf when there are other issues, you know you are in a screwed up world.

 

A call to censor a kiss from a man to a woman in a fairy tale that was originally much more darker is hardly something that is important to tackle to begin with but I think the fact that this claim is being made which is a type of censorship is in itself worse than the actual issue in the claim.

As I posted before, she does not want it banned. I don't know why so many people are glaring over that, I assume they just read the headline and took it at face value.

I should have worded that better. She doesn't really want it banned, but she wants it to be 'banned' on schools etc. for young children.



o_O.Q on 26 November 2017
VGPolyglot said:
o_O.Q said:

he's wrong, hitler was primarily a socialist... what a lot of people don't understand amazingly to me is that government control is leftist, it has always been leftist and it will always be leftist

Ah, so I assume you aren't an anarchist, so that means I'm right wing while you're left wing, since I support a stateless society. So, Hitler is on the same end of the spectrum as you are.

i have no political ideology, since i'm starting to understand more and more that they are generally adopted by people that generally don't understand them

"since I support a stateless society"

you do not, you have told me that you want to eliminate hierarchies... when i've asked you how you intend to accomplish that without government control, you've always ran away, maybe this time you'll be able to answer the question

so again how are you going to eliminate hierarchies without government control?



sethnintendo on 26 November 2017

She has a point though. Fairy tales should be banned from school.  There are better choices of books that kids can actually learn something more than bullshit.



VGPolyglot on 26 November 2017
o_O.Q said:
VGPolyglot said:

Ah, so I assume you aren't an anarchist, so that means I'm right wing while you're left wing, since I support a stateless society. So, Hitler is on the same end of the spectrum as you are.

i have no political ideology, since i'm starting to understand more and more that they are generally adopted by people that generally don't understand them

"since I support a stateless society"

you do not, you have told me that you want to eliminate hierarchies... when i've asked you how you intend to accomplish that without government control, you've always ran away, maybe this time you'll be able to answer the question

so again how are you going to eliminate hierarchies without government control?

Ah, you have no political ideology, so why should I take any of what you say seriously? And it is done by taking over the workplace.