NATO said:
Miyamotoo said:
PSP 3000 and PSP Go dont offer full home experience and that's a fact, Switch out of box gave you full home console experience and full handheld experience, and hole Switch and everything around Switch is made in order to operate like real home console and real handheld (thats why you have two modes for evre game), that of course is not case with PSP 3000 and PSP Go.
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The same can be said for the Switch in relation to actual home consoles, where is Doom's level editor, Skyrims mods, Story mode in Fifa? let me guess, you don't value these things and they're option thus don't matter right?, so feel free to play a PSP game then compare it to the PS1 or earlier generation, you would have been blown away, and laugh at the idea of not calling it a full console experience.
So if someone who plays on a PC, at 4k, 60fps, all the latest and greatest titles said to you, that switch games were not "full game experiences" you would quite rightly say that was bullshit, so i'm going to say the same thing to you, that's bullshit.
Offcourse they run differently, fact is that developers when making games for Switch made game to run at two different modes in Switch, portable and home console mode, that why you have higher resoulution in docked mode. And of course this one of point while Switch is hybrid because have home console and handheld mode.
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And all virtually all PC games are developed to run on a multitude of setups, operating systems, graphics cards, CPU architectures, all while giving the end user full control over things like resolution, texture detail, lighting, shadows and so on.
Does that make it hybrid? no, not at all, that is a fact.
But fact is that you have extra power while Switch is in docked mode, console in docked mode run GPU at higher clocks compared to portable mode to offer higher resolution. Why would Nintendo do that in first place, why they just didn't make same clocks of GPU like they are in portable mod for home console mod also!? Because they wanted that game in home console mode have better visuals compare to portable mode.
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For the last time, the switch does not have extra power when docked, the switch runs at the originally intended speed when docked, and a lower speed when undocked, that is a fact.
Again you missing point, why Switch has at all detachable controllers, why dont have built in controllers like any other handheld, or why Switch offer full home console local multiplayer!? Because that made most sense for hybrid that act like real home console also, to use some controllers in handheld and home console mode.
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Again, whether the controllers are attached or not does not make something hybrid, whether it supports external controllers or not, does not make it a hybrid, the tablets china release that have detachable controllers, designed specifically for the system to be used in exactly the same way as on the switch, are not hybrid systems, they are tablets with detachable controllers, that is a fact.
Again, dock provide signal to TV and power so that games from portable mode could run in home console mode at higher resolution.
Switch is using mobile hardware and tech, but from start is made to act like real home console and real handheld and that's fact, practically Switch is hybrid of home console and handheld and thats a point.
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Dock does not provide a signal, it translates the signal sent from the switch to hdmi, it's a USB-C to HDMI passthrough, and charge power - Switch negotiates a handshake with the dock (to prevent third party adapters) and when the handshake is complete, switches the internal profile to performance, just like any standard laptop will run on a default windows installation in a power save mode when on battery and switch to full power mode when connected to the charger, this does not make it a hybrid, this just means Nintendo prioritized battery life over performance, as they always have done, each and every handheld they have released has demonstrated this, that is a fact.
But point is that they made higher clock GPU for home console mode, why they would that in first place, because they wanted that console in home console mode have better visuals and higher resolution compared to portable mode. Fact that we talking about two difrent modes of using Switch proves that Switch is a hybrid.
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Again, you fail to understand that the default operating speed of the system is the same, the switch just actually uses it when connected to a power source, as in the laptop comparison, when in a power save mode, (a very simple switch in software), a different performance profile is selected - this isn't anything new and has nothing to do with whether or not a console is home or portable - what you are essentially arguing here is that if hardware utizlises performance profiles for when using internal battery or external power, that makes it a hybrid, that is incorrect and dramatically so.
Its not form factor or specific hardware that determines if some device is a hybrid.
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Form factor however, dictates whether something is portable or not, that's a fact.
Yes, Wii U would also be hybrid if you could play use gamepad outside home.
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Excellent you're finally getting it - the gamepad would be outside the home playing games, but a portion of the complete system, that itself, can play games, would still be sat in front of the TV, see, wasn't that hard to grasp was it?
All your arguments are very weak or dont have sense in trying to make point why Switch is not hybrid. On other hand I talk about facts, fact is that Switch acts like real full home console and like real handheld in same time, its fact that Switch from start is designed to act like real home console and like real handheld in same time, to be both in same time, and thats reason why Switch is a hybrid of home console and handeld, regardles point that Switch using mobile hardware.
But it seems you refuse to see or to accept that, so I dont see point of continue with this.
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And then you spoil it all with the school yard level approach, you havent directly addressed a single one of my points and instead parrot the same, inaccurate, misguided nonsense on every reply. Conversely, every single point you made, however vauge or inaccurate, I responded to and explained clearly and completely, as to why it was wrong and gave multiple examples to show this.
Your feelings are not facts.
If you can't handle a debate at least have the dignity to bow out gracefully rather than spout nonsense and run.
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