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AJNShelton on 14 November 2017
HintHRO said:

f you downgrade DOOM, Wolfenstein, Dragonball Z and other games hard enough, even the N64 will be able to run it. That doesn't make the performance current gen. First of all, going from 60fps to 30fps is a MASSIVE downgrade. And then they also have to lower texture detail, lighting, rendering and much more. This amount of adjusting takes months because they have to re-evaluate the whole game. And then besides all the downgrades, also content is missing. 

Switch is running last gen games, not current gen. And that for 320 euros excluding a game is way too much. 


Do you really think Xenoverse 2 is a huge downgrade ?



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d21lewis on 14 November 2017
HintHRO said:
Shiken said:

DOOM, Wolfenstein II, Dragonball Xenoverse 2, NBA2k18, WWE2k18, Dagonquest (whatever the newest one is), etc are all current gen games that are either here or coming, and there are more to come.  Plus 1st party exclusives are current gen as well.

 

Try harder

If you downgrade DOOM, Wolfenstein, Dragonball Z and other games hard enough, even the N64 will be able to run it. That doesn't make the performance current gen. First of all, going from 60fps to 30fps is a MASSIVE downgrade. And then they also have to lower texture detail, lighting, rendering and much more. This amount of adjusting takes months because they have to re-evaluate the whole game. And then besides all the downgrades, also content is missing. 

Switch is running last gen games, not current gen. And that for 320 euros excluding a game is way too much. 

And yet, it sells like crazy. 



Shiken on 14 November 2017
HintHRO said:
Shiken said:

DOOM, Wolfenstein II, Dragonball Xenoverse 2, NBA2k18, WWE2k18, Dagonquest (whatever the newest one is), etc are all current gen games that are either here or coming, and there are more to come.  Plus 1st party exclusives are current gen as well.

 

Try harder

If you downgrade DOOM, Wolfenstein, Dragonball Z and other games hard enough, even the N64 will be able to run it. That doesn't make the performance current gen. First of all, going from 60fps to 30fps is a MASSIVE downgrade. And then they also have to lower texture detail, lighting, rendering and much more. This amount of adjusting takes months because they have to re-evaluate the whole game. And then besides all the downgrades, also content is missing. 

Switch is running last gen games, not current gen. And that for 320 euros excluding a game is way too much. 

You list current gen games then say it runs last gen games?  Damn you take twisting the truth to a new level lol.

 

All of those games are feature complete.  Your one argument is maybe DOOM with the map maker, but then you could counter that it is traded for the feature of portability.

 

And your whole N64 reference just shows how little you know on the topic, I believe we are done here.  ;)



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Shiken on 14 November 2017
setsunatenshi said:
Shiken said:

DOOM, Wolfenstein II, Dragonball Xenoverse 2, NBA2k18, WWE2k18, Dagonquest (whatever the newest one is), etc are all current gen games that are either here or coming, and there are more to come.  Plus 1st party exclusives are current gen as well.

 

Try harder

gimped versions of some current gen games then... come on... meet me half way here ok? geez :/

It runs portable versions of current gen games, where the PS4 runs console versions of the same games (higher res and framerate).

 

Basically I am saying a more acurate version of what you just said.  ;)

 

EDIT:  I will give you that some of the most demanding games however would need to be put on a different engine by a second dev team if it wanted any chance of running on Switch though.  There is your middle ground.  =P

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d21lewis on 14 November 2017
Shiken said:
setsunatenshi said:

gimped versions of some current gen games then... come on... meet me half way here ok? geez :/

It runs portable versions of current gen games, where the PS4 runs console versions of the same games (higher res and framerate).

 

Basically I am saying a more acurate version of what you just said.  ;)

Yeah, I'm a Switch lover and I didn't take your edit as an insult.

 

*Shrugs*



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setsunatenshi on 14 November 2017
Shiken said:
setsunatenshi said:

gimped versions of some current gen games then... come on... meet me half way here ok? geez :/

It runs portable versions of some current gen games, where the PS4 runs console versions of the same games (higher res and framerate).

 

Basically I am saying a more acurate version of what you just said.  ;)

lol we'll come to an agreement at some point I feel.

do we shake on it? :D



Shiken on 14 November 2017
setsunatenshi said:
Shiken said:

It runs portable versions of some current gen games, where the PS4 runs console versions of the same games (higher res and framerate).

 

Basically I am saying a more acurate version of what you just said.  ;)

lol we'll come to an agreement at some point I feel.

do we shake on it? :D

Read my edit to the original post if you have not already, and we have an ancord.  =P

 

*extends hand*

 

 

EDIT from previous post:  I will give you that some of the most demanding games however would need to be put on a different engine by a second dev team if it wanted any chance of running on Switch though.  There is your middle ground.  =P

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setsunatenshi on 14 November 2017
Shiken said:
setsunatenshi said:

lol we'll come to an agreement at some point I feel.

do we shake on it? :D

Read my edit to the original post if you have not already, and we have an ancord.  =P

 

*extends hand*

I see, I see... we can come to an agreement then :D

I think this is a first time on an internet forum discussion (it might have just broken the internet itself)



Shiken on 14 November 2017
setsunatenshi said:
Shiken said:

Read my edit to the original post if you have not already, and we have an ancord.  =P

 

*extends hand*

I see, I see... we can come to an agreement then :D

I think this is a first time on an internet forum discussion (it might have just broken the internet itself)

I know right?  Maybe I should give Vault tec a call?  XD



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setsunatenshi on 14 November 2017
Shiken said:
setsunatenshi said:

I see, I see... we can come to an agreement then :D

I think this is a first time on an internet forum discussion (it might have just broken the internet itself)

I know right?  Maybe I should give Vault tec a call?  XD
                       

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don't jinx it lol