Youtube vids or you deleted those which is it?

There are always going to be people that will use it either exclusively as a handheld or exclusively as a console.It dosent mean its not a hybrid.The functionallity is important here, not how a percentage of the users use it.

And I have always said it was a hybrid, ever since its reveal.If you feel like it, just go back to my old posts to check it.What I said about being a handheld, and at that I said being part handheld, is that the Japanese people would see it more as a portable system than a home console, and thus it could work as a handheld for them and have the same appeal as handhelds always had.THAT is the beauty of being a hybrid system.The system can adapt itself to the markets needs.Im not moving goalposts or anything.

People that said that the Wii U would succeed were not doing any analysis at all.They were just going off the hype of the last generation, and thought that the same succeess would repeat, without analysing any of the situations surrounding the new system.By forum dwellers I meant, and I thought you understood, the ones that made predictions based on the conditions surrounding the system, and the ones that actually took the time to understand the situation Nintendo was in, rather than "Wii sold 100 millions?Then the Wii U will sell 60 millions at least on name alone".

Edit:God, are there still people like you that dont understand what the Switch is?*sigh*.The Vita was no hybrid, because not only it didnt come with that level of functionality out of the box(so you have to buy the PS Vita separetely to make it work on the TV), but also that it was poorly implemented.

And just because the Switch can function as a handheld, it doesnt mean it cant work as a home console.The controller can function as a standard home controller(there is even the option to get a pro controller), you can enjoy the Switch to the fullest without ever taking it away from the dock.For the handheld side, you can take it anywhere and not depend on a TV to play the games.Thus, a hybrid.

And dont come to me with this 50/50 nonsense.Thats something thats not quantifiable and you know it.If you go by that route for your argumentation, its just going to be an endless back and forth.

Yep you are totally ignoring the factor that one side is more proeminent on the system even when you are assuming HH is it.

And how good or how bad something is implemented doesn't change the fact that it exist.

Look above.

And I don't remember you calling out the Nintendo fans that defended the Switch was more of a HH that you can connect to the TV than a console that you can play portably... were their brain ok?

And I remember a lot of brain working Nintendo fans saying WiiU was going to be a sucess and lead the gen.

Why didn't they have second thoughts about the PS4 after Sony blew it with the PS3?(at least initially) They even supported the Dreamcast at launch.

Something smells. I don't think these developers hate Nintendo, they're jealous.

I remember back in 2007 Hirai in an interview said something like: "we can't let Nintendo run with the market". Basically confirming right there it's conspiratory in the way it was worded and the question.

But here's the thing: when Nintendo does well, the industry does well because they bring a lot of people in. These developers have to make their minds and bury their resentment once and for all.

Yamauchi is DEAD. WTF are they holding a grudge for? Stupid.

Please enlighten me:What factor am I ignoring?

Is this factor that Im ignoring?

http://www.ign.com/articles/2017/10/31/how-nintendo-switch-owners-play-the-system

This piece of data that Nintendo has given us, showing that the usage in both modes are about the same?That the handheld mode is just slightly more popular, but not enough so to be dominant?This is the allmighty evidence that the Switch is a handheld?

And please, you are smarter than that.If you go by what you said in your last sentence, then the PS4 is also a hybrid, because I can carry around!I mean, I would need a TV and a power source but hell, that is carriable too!

Look, sorry If I come off as too blunt, but I cant understand how people dont see the Swtch as a hybrid.You can consider it as a handheld or a home console for yourself, thats more than fair.Its what you want it to be for you.But in pratical terms(read it as without being subjective to what you want the system to be) it has the functionality of both devices in one, making it into a system that works both ways.And that also works because that idea is built into its core.Its not an afterthought, not a reaction.It is the cornerstone upon which the Switch is made.

The console its a hybrid and I always said it is a hybrid, not a handheld you can play on TV and not a homeconsole you can play on the go, a hybrid, and following the data Nintendo gave us its pretty obvious the public is seeing it like that, since they use both docked and undocked mode with similar frequency. Those defending Switch was a HH you can play on TV weren't more wrong than those saying the opposite (probably you were one of those, right?).

I don't know about those brains that thought WiiU would be a smashing success, I just know mine wasn't one of them.

Yes it have functionality of both. And to me it leans much more to the HH side. But what you are saying is saying it doesn't lean to the HH, but that 3rd parties should have looked at the sucess of HH and support the platform. It is or it isn't.

And on the source you sent HH is 50% more predominant than docked... altough half the userbase at the moment do both almost equally. I haven't seen that before, thanks for the source. I was going from the impression on this forum that had like 80% people talking more on the HH usage and how it was appealing to buy 7y old game just because it would be portable now.

And the analogy of the PS4 doesn't make sense because it doesn't have any of the points that would go to a HH.

To me it is a HH that connects to TV because of the features and design is made much more closer to HH than to console. But yes, it's a hybrid (yet not that far from PSVita or even Cellphones in that sense).

Yours weren't per your admission, but on this forum as far as I remember the pools indicated WiiU would be a sucess until it wasn't.