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Mr Puggsly said:
AngryLittleAlchemist said:

They do,

Just stop there.

Games of all genres can be ambitious.

Nice fallacy.

I don't know why you're trying so hard to defend the game. Mediocrity should be critiqued no matter where it comes from. Not only that, but you're defending an indie game with backing from a major influence in the industry. That also brings into question double standards. So when a great game that happens to be an indie game is made it just happens tp be great, but when an indie game is mediocre it's a given because of it's budget? 

Budget can affect projects. Can. But the indie community has created many platformers considered great, from ambitious games to repetitive ones. I never said platformers can't be ambitious, that would be crazy to say especially given Odyssey. Even indie games can be, and we see examples of that. But... an indie game with decent production values that sticks to genre cliches and lacks scope ... but still turns out mediocre? That is baaaaaad, and it's not because of a budget issue...

 

I love Super Mario 3D World despite it's small stages and relatively low production values. Yooka Laylee, despite having some issues maybe related to budget, was mostly a failure creatively. Etc etc etc

 

And again your entire premise is flawed because I didn't have expectations. The more footage was shown, the worse it looked, but I tried to stay neutral  before release. That was months ago, and I forgot the game was even releasing till today. Which is why I found it funny that my suspicions were correct.

 

I dont know why you're so keen on defending this game. I didnt say it was objectively bad or insult the  developers.All I said was that I found the games reception funny , and that it kind of confirmed what I feared would be the case. I can't talk from experience, which is why we're talking about reception and if its justified for an indie title. It could be great, ive concded that.

I just find your position on budget to be misplaced in this discussion, an excuse.

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AngryLittleAlchemist said:
"Who's bright idea was it to have a 3D Platformer where you can't rotate the camera freely?" - IGN, Super Lucky's Tale review

Uhhhh ... Nintendo's?

LOL and they gave mario 3d world a 9.6/10



Mr Puggsly said:
AngryLittleAlchemist said:
In all seriousness I had to hold back laughter when I saw this thread.

This just looked like the most generic IP ever and mediocrity really deserves to be critiqued.

It could be the best game ever though, who knows!

For a small studio project its pretty impressive, maybe your expecations were too high? I mean its a $30 game so its not like they pushing something very ambitious.

Maybe it will review at par with more hyped projects like Knack 2 and Yooka Laylee.

Also, a game like this is gonna look underwhelming with Mario Odyssey just being released as well.

Impressive?! The game always looked like a mobile game...strange way to showcase the powah of “the monster”. Just shows how barren the XBox’s exclusives situation really is.



Errorist76 said:
Mr Puggsly said:

For a small studio project its pretty impressive, maybe your expecations were too high? I mean its a $30 game so its not like they pushing something very ambitious.

Maybe it will review at par with more hyped projects like Knack 2 and Yooka Laylee.

Also, a game like this is gonna look underwhelming with Mario Odyssey just being released as well.

Impressive?! The game always looked like a mobile game...strange way to showcase the powah of “the monster”. Just shows how barren the XBox’s exclusives situation really is.

Uhhh... I wonder if you actually think you're making a valid point.

Neither Sony or MS just used excluisves to hype their upgraded hardware. These are not platforms relying solely on exclusives, which is why these companies keep buying 3rd party marketing deals.

Super Lucky's Tale is a game they got behind and it was announced around the same time as X1X. So that was simply one of many games hyped to work better with X1X.

Maybe they could delay the X1X so it launches with MS's early 2018 content. But instead hyping it to play major 3rd party games best, a long with a collection of existing exclusives, that's the better bet to hit the 2017 holiday.

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AngryLittleAlchemist said:
Mr Puggsly said:

Just stop there.

Games of all genres can be ambitious.

I just find your position on budget to be misplaced in this discussion, an excuse.

Well it sounds like you wanted something more ambitious but when I see a 3D platformer at a budget price and beign developed by a small studio, my expectations tend to be low.

I mean not just an excusve, its common sense.

If this game was notable that would be a surprise, certainly unexpected given the circumstance. Anywho, its a game I waited for reviews before ever considering checking out.



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I might still pick it up because Damn it, WE NEED MORE HIGH BUDGET 3d Platformers



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Mr Puggsly said:
AngryLittleAlchemist said:

I just find your position on budget to be misplaced in this discussion, an excuse.

Well it sounds like you wanted something more ambitious but when I see a 3D platformer at a budget price and beign developed by a small studio, my expectations tend to be low.

I mean not just an excusve, its common sense.

If this game was notable that would be a surprise, certainly unexpected given the circumstance. Anywho, its a game I waited for reviews before ever considering checking out.

But nothing in my original comment ever implied that. Like, not even in the slightest. So that was not the kind of game I was expecting. I expected something formulaic, just good. I might still buy this on sale in 2018



TorterraBoy said:
AngryLittleAlchemist said:
"Who's bright idea was it to have a 3D Platformer where you can't rotate the camera freely?" - IGN, Super Lucky's Tale review

Uhhhh ... Nintendo's?

LOL and they gave mario 3d world a 9.6/10

When the rest of a game is mediocre; these little things stand out more.



So the score is underwhelming... and that was one of the games that MS manager was counting on for the holidays. Will it bring HW?



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

DonFerrari said:
So the score is underwhelming... and that was one of the games that MS manager was counting on for the holidays. Will it bring HW?

I never understood why anyone would see anything in the generic game anyway. The first game on Oculus was very mediocre already.