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curl-6 on 28 October 2017
Mr Puggsly said:
curl-6 said:

A dunno if I'd call any of the cuts surprising; it's pretty standard stuff, a lot of the same tradeoffs used not only by other first party Switch games but also titles from other companies like Halo 5 or Destiny 2.

UC4 and Horizon make plenty of sacrifices of their own. 

Games on all consoles make sacrifices to achieve certain performance goals.

But Mario Odyssey is pushing it to another level than most other 60 fps titles. But people are less critical of Switch because its inferior specs.

Frankly, a game like Mario Odyssey shows better specs could really make that game a lot more polished. But its still an achievment as is.

Well, at the end of the day, it's handheld hardware, so naturally it has to make more sacrifices than games on, say, PS4. Of course software gets judged by the standards of the hardware running it, that's why PS4/Xbone games don't get criticized for not hitting 4k/60fps in AAA titles.



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Cloudman on 28 October 2017

Perhaps not Nintendo, but I figure some 3rd parties would like some powerful hardware.



 

              

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TheWPCTraveler on 28 October 2017
Soundwave said:
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Okay, since everyone else is dealing with the technical and artstyle angles (and doing a very good job of doing so, I may add), I'll deal with another.

Specifically, that Mario is not Nintendo as a whole.

I can name quite a few Nintendo franchises that would definitely benefit from more powerful hardware - Xenoblade, Metroid (Prime), Pilotwings, Starfox, Pikmin. I'm sure that there are more first-party ones that I've missed.

Then, of course, there is the possibility that 3D Zelda would switch back to a more realistic artstyle in the future, but that's another discussion entirely.

Pikmin, Star Fox will look amazing on PS4++ hardware. The issue with things like Metroid and Xenoblade is they are relatively small franchises in actual sales. Nintendo is never going to spend a monstrous budget on par with Uncharted 4 on games like that, so the hardware is kinda moot because the budget needed to push the hardware to the limits isn't available. 

I just knew that you'd give the budget excuse for Xenoblade, of all things.

Listen, I'm sure that Metroid Prime 4 would punch above its weight in terms of sales just because of the hype that the Metroid fanbase is giving it. And, of course, given the kind of effort that Xenoblade X got, I don't doubt that Monolith Soft will punch above their weight in terms of graphics.



 
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Mr Puggsly on 28 October 2017
curl-6 said:
Mr Puggsly said:

Games on all consoles make sacrifices to achieve certain performance goals.

But Mario Odyssey is pushing it to another level than most other 60 fps titles. But people are less critical of Switch because its inferior specs.

Frankly, a game like Mario Odyssey shows better specs could really make that game a lot more polished. But its still an achievment as is.

Well, at the end of the day, it's handheld hardware, so naturally it has to make more sacrifices than games on, say, PS4. Of course software gets judged by the standards of the hardware running it, that's why PS4/Xbone games don't get criticized for not hitting 4k/60fps in AAA titles.

Ps4 and X1 get mocked all the time for not hitting 1080p or 60 fps regularly. But relatively speaking, they do a lot for the price of the hardware.

Anywho, all these machines show their limitations because they all push their limits.

I hope we get a more powerful Switch years from now. But its still impressive for size and price.



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curl-6 on 28 October 2017
Mr Puggsly said:
curl-6 said:

Well, at the end of the day, it's handheld hardware, so naturally it has to make more sacrifices than games on, say, PS4. Of course software gets judged by the standards of the hardware running it, that's why PS4/Xbone games don't get criticized for not hitting 4k/60fps in AAA titles.

Ps4 and X1 get mocked all the time for not hitting 1080p or 60 fps regularly. But relatively speaking, they do a lot for the price of the hardware.

Anywho, all these machines show their limitations because they all push their limits.

I hope we get a more powerful Switch years from now. But its still impressive for size and price.

That's true, but the kind of people who mock PS4/Xbone for not hitting 1080p/60fps regularly tend to mock Switch's graphical capabilities also.

Given devices like the New 3DS, PS4 Pro, and Scorpio, I would not be surprised if a more powerful Switch model is released in 2020 or so.

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