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Lonely_Dolphin on 24 October 2017

Meh, I'll believe it when I see it.


Oh wait!



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Nuvendil on 24 October 2017
PAOerfulone said:
Nuvendil said:

Except its utter lack of any interesting singleplayer content.  

IMO, Smash 5 would be 10000% more interesting than a Smash 4 port in 2018.  The game has so many areas it could improve.  It could stand to look far better, there could be some actually worthwhile singleplayer content, I can list off a good number of great options for new characters.  Mario Kart 8 worked because it came out a month after launch, it was a clear early life title.  Same with Pokken.  The further we get from launch, the less and less desirable Wii U ports become.  Especially of games that were highly successful.  At least if they port XCX or TMS#FE or DKC:TF, we would be seeing games get a second chance that really *did* suffere heavily in the sales department due to the Wii U's state and Nintendo's mindset at the time.

And there's also the chance Smash has been in the works for a while now, it has been three years.  And let's not forget the Sakurai is burnt out or doesn't want to do another Smash has been a gag for how many games in a row now?  

A Smash 4 port it 2018 would be crushing for me cause it means that Smash 5 is goodness knows how far off.

Smash 5 in just 4 years after Smash 4, (less than 3 if you're counting the last of the DLC released in February 2016), which was 6 and a half years after Brawl, which was 6 and a half years after Melee? Yeah, I don't think so. Sakurai being burnt out and tired of it is part of the reason why those games have taken so long. You don't think he feels, after releasing each game: "(SIGH) Finally! I can take a long break and get away from it all for a while. Recharge my batteries and then come back and do it again when I'm nice and ready." That's the type of guy he is. He doesn't like being given work after work, assignment after assignment, on the company's terms instead of his. That's the reason he left HAL Laboratory, even though Kirby is his baby. That's why Brawl, Kid Icarus: Uprising, and Smash 4 are the only 3 games he has worked on since 2005. He marches to the beat of his own drum.

And sure, we could have a single player campaign that is more along the lines of Melee's Adventure Mode or Brawl's Subspace Emissary in terms of content and some new characters as well to expand upon an already massive roster of 59 fighters. But that kind of game would far exceed the content of any Smash Bros. game before it, and considering Smash 4 had plenty of it, that's saying a lot. I doubt a game like that will be completed in 3 years time.

Each and every new Smash Bros. game has had far more content than the last: more characters and more stages means more time and resources necessary to make sure the game and the roster is as balanced as possible + more items and collectables such as trophies, challenges, music remixes, and all the other things that makes Smash Bros., Smash Bros. 

So, even if they hypothetically DID start development for Smash 5, right after Smash 4, the development time would take considerably longer than Brawl and 4 to make a great and worthy successor that meets and satisfies the expectations of the gaming community and the extremely rabid and obnoxious fanbase. Anything less would be unaccepted and trashed. And again, they wouldn't have begun dedicated development until after the last of the Smash 4 DLC was released. Much like how development of Smash 4 didn't start until Sakurai finished Kid Icarus: Uprising in early 2012.


And if Smash 5 was in development, we'd already know about it. Nintendo always announced a new game in the series WELL ahead of time to build up as much hype as possible. Remember the Smash Dojo? The updates on the website at 3 A.M. every day revealing a new character. The Hype Train that ensues.
  It's freaking Smash Bros., they want to make a big deal out of that. 
And if Smash 5 was truly coming in 2018, don't you think they would've announced something as big as that by now? I mean they announced Fire Emblem, Kirby, and Yoshi for 2018, three of their 'B' Tier franchises, but not Smash Bros.? Their one 'S' Tier franchise? 
Telling people, "After Mario and Zelda this year, you can look forward to the newest and 5th installment of the highly beloved, Super Smash Bros. franchise in NEXT year," would guarantee continued sales and momentum right there. So, the only reason I can think of as to why they haven't announced Smash 5 yet for 2018 is because there IS no Smash 5 for 2018.

Given the sales of 3D Mario, Mario Kart, and Pokemon, I think calling Smash their only S tier franchise very hyperbolic. And Fire Emblem is above Kirby and Yoshi now, gotta say.  

And I don't think Smash 5 is coming in 2018.  I also don't think Smash 4 is either.  Because contrary to the rhetoric of some, Nintendo doesn't "need" Smash in 2018.  They have numerous other franchises, this isn't the Wii U that was on death's door in 2014 before Kart arrived and Smash hype ramped up (though it proved a very short lived revival).  I could absolutely see Smash announced in 2018 to be released in 2019.  And assuming GCN Virtual Console shows up, Smash Melee may be a good thing to push out immediately.  

My guess for 2018's big Holiday title is Pomemon, Animal Crossing, or some unannounced game.  They are playing with their cards very close to the vest though so hard to say.  But I think there will be far fewer Wii U ports coming than people are thinking.  Nintendo seems quite aware of how that move could backfire on them in a public relations sense.

Also, you talk about how extremely long dev time for Smash is...then point out Smash 4 was developed in a little lver 2 years :P



Shaunodon on 24 October 2017
GoOnKid said:
Shaunodon said:

Haha, I was about to say something. Good thing I checked for an update.

Don't worry, it's not an egregious error like trying to claim Smash4 is lacking in content, and/or is already worn out and we need a new one.

True, but as much as I love Smash 4 I also would appreciate if Smash 5 was actually SMALLER in scale. This gigantism leads nowhere. I would drop all double characters for example, like Dr. Mario.  My two cents.

I haven't even started thinking about Smash 5, since I'm still waiting to see what they do with Smash 4 on Switch first (assuming that's the case).

Smash 5 can wait until next generation like every other Smash.



GoOnKid on 24 October 2017
Shaunodon said:
GoOnKid said:

True, but as much as I love Smash 4 I also would appreciate if Smash 5 was actually SMALLER in scale. This gigantism leads nowhere. I would drop all double characters for example, like Dr. Mario.  My two cents.

I haven't even started thinking about Smash 5, since I'm still waiting to see what they do with Smash 4 on Switch first (assuming that's the case).

Smash 5 can wait until next generation like every other Smash.

Yeah, i agree with this. Smash can wait.



Pok87 on 24 October 2017

Maybe we will see SSB for Switch in 2018 (something between SSB4 DX and SSB5). It would be a good game for promoting online subscriptions (and amiibo).



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Nuvendil on 24 October 2017
Shaunodon said:
GoOnKid said:

True, but as much as I love Smash 4 I also would appreciate if Smash 5 was actually SMALLER in scale. This gigantism leads nowhere. I would drop all double characters for example, like Dr. Mario.  My two cents.

I haven't even started thinking about Smash 5, since I'm still waiting to see what they do with Smash 4 on Switch first (assuming that's the case).

Smash 5 can wait until next generation like every other Smash.

Smash 5 will come out for Switch.  As will Mario Kart 9.  It's a matter of when.  Not if.  



KrspaceT on 24 October 2017

Releasing new entries in franchises both active and dormant, and possibly new I.P's. Plus DX versions.

I must say, let's see what you've got for 2018 Nintendo.



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DélioPT on 24 October 2017

Really hope so.
Although this year will be hard to beat (mario, zelda, mario kart, splatoon).



MarkkyStorm on 24 October 2017
Shikamo said:

my bets for unannounced games that will release 2018

FP

Animal Crossing Switch

Smash Bros 4 Deluxe

Pikmin 4

TP

Tokyo Mirage Sessions Remaster

Bayonetta 1 + 2

The Wonderful 101 Remaster

Grand Theft Auto V

Fallout 4

Metal Gear Solid V 

Dragon Ball FighterZ

Take MGS V off that list and you have a very plausible bet.



Lonely_Dolphin on 24 October 2017
Nuvendil said:

Nintendo seems quite aware of how that move could backfire on them in a public relations sense.

 

Where are you getting this from? I'm constantly seeing people begging for Smash, and while that's probably just the hardcore minority, Mario Kart 8 Deluxe is one of the best selling Switch games despite being an enhanced port that some said no one would want. While I agree the Switch doesn't need a Smash 4 remaster, I don't see how releasing it would hurt more than help, and yeah I wont deny that I want it too. :P

Also Fire Emblem is bigger than Kirby n Yoshi only by a couple hundred thousand (based on sales of their recent games) so I would still put them in the same sales tier of 1-2 million, though I do believe FE Switch has potential to take the series even higher if it's done excellently.