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flashfire926 on 06 November 2017
Tulipanzo said:
flashfire926 said:

So if a game features microtransactions of any kind they are now GaaS........ way to move goalposts. So by your defenition The Last of Us,   Uncharted 4 are all GaaS just because they have microstransactions.......... it dosnt work like that.  That definition is blatantly wrong., and I can fit a lot of games there that would be insane to think that GaaS. And I have a question, have you played any of those games?  It hurts  each of those games, very little to none ,and even though I would also like them to be gone, they arent really a major hindrance. Even the worst case scenario, Forza 7, has a reasonabe pogression system that you can comfortable without ever thinking of buying a microtransaction.

Scalebound was in development for three years. It was obvious development wasnt coming along right, so they decided to cancel it. Just look at its E3 showings, it was always janky AF. This was not something Microsoft asked them to make, this was Hideki Kamiya's dream project, which he always wanted to make since the start of PLatinum games in 2006. I agree to you on the poor decision making part tho, they shouldve stuck to it a bit longer, even if the resulting game ended up to be broken or janky. And why have we started to make conspiracy theories about Microsoft alienating the devs by adding extraneous elements? Do we have a single piece of proof? a single leak? Anything? Or is it just wild assumptions?

Quantum break isnt getting a sequel because of Microsoft not being interested, it was  because remedy wanted to move on and make a multiplatform game (this was stated earlier this year) (because they saw little returms from quantum break.  I also agree on the Sunset Overdrive 2 part, Microsoft should grab the opportunity at once (there is still time, and this could still happen, right now insomniac is busy at spider-man), but its understandable if they are hesitant, since the the first game underperformed in sales. 

I am not denying the bolded. But saying theyre "all in on GaaS" is assumptive at best, insane at worst.

To bolded: yes, they are, and yes they are definetely hurt by that. I can admit it, quite easily in fact, becuase I'm not beholden to Sony and somehow unable to criticize them. Microtransactions are shitty, lootboxes are shittier, and Sony was wrong to add them in UC4 and TLoU (and maybe Killzone, Idk).

And speaking on moving goalpost, I'd like to remind you that you started this conversation by saying I was miscostructing what Microsoft said and making up their interest in GaaS on statements alone.
While there is not a set definition for GaaS, while with it being a new concept, I feel that my "monetizing content in a paid game" works better than your "the same, but if it's something I don't care about it's fine".

As for the rest, quickly since this is getting dull:
Scalebound co-op was requested by Microsoft and Kamiya seemed to have been unhappy with the way the project was being handled there, though admittedly it seems this was alleged. The game looking "janky" didn't prevent Microsoft from showing it off at E3 twice, and projects like this usually have a lot more problems at home than at the show, so hopefully we'll get to hear that story soon.

Remedy has been working pretty much exclusively with Microsoft for quite some time, so seems weird that Microsoft wouldn't just renew the contract they had going on, especially since there seem to have been a major investement at some point in Quantum Break,  what with the TV shows and everything.
Still, either massively poor management or, they're not interested in the games Remedy does anymore. Occam's razor suggests the latter.

Sunset Overdrive 2 isn't getting made by MS, which was the entire point of Insomniac's statement. 


Still, Microsoft is making far fewer single-player game and far more monetized multiplayer games (hope you like this better, because it's still GaaS) than either Sony or Nintendo. That's just the way things are, and it's bad. Their statements don't help, but neither does ignoring the obvious red flags

I mean, after how Quantum Break turned out to be in sales, why would Remedy even offer a contract renewal, when they can potentially pair up with a third party publisher and have their game available to 90 million+ people, instead of just 30 million, leading to more of a chance to success? Sure, you lose multiple E3 showings and a bit of extra advertising, but the trade-off is worth it, especially in remedy's case.

Okay, lets assume that it was microsoft that left the deal on the table. Quntum Break was a huge development, and a lot of money was put in it. Jeez, I wonder why Microsoft left them.........MAYBE BECAUSE QUANTUM BREAK WAS A HUUGE COMMERCIAL FLOP, AND THEY LOST A HUGE A CHUNK OF MONEY WITH IT? No, it cant be that, since thats too hard for you to understand. 

For the bolded, I'm gonna need a source or I'm assuming that your pulling that one from your ass. It looked janky at first, but at E3 2016, with atleast 2.5 years of development already taken place by then, the game still looked janky and messy, and clearly development was coming along roughly.

Okay, so are right on the meaning of GaaS, and the rest of us are all clearly wrong. Sorry, Master.

I agree with you on the making bad statements part. 



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KazumaKiryu on 07 November 2017

I would be interested.. Is Phil Spencer responsible for making sure Xbox Exclusive wants to be available for PC in the future? Every opinion can be accepted, but not this situation. Even in Xbox forums, many players are disappointed about it. Particularly annoying is the matter with "Scalebound" - the game would have been important for this year. No Chance more for Xbox in future by "Platinum Games" ?!!, i think. The staff could not believe it, when suddenly the development was over. I personally want: If 2019 a real new Xbox appears, I hope - Microsoft is more concerned with new big games and Japanese rpg-experiences.

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darkenergy on 11 November 2017
Aura7541 said:
darkenergy said:

Like I said I notice something and just pointing it out.

And it has little to do with the topic, at hand. If you want to address other people's criticisms, then do it on topic.

I was on topic the first time you quoted me, I said something else about the topic.

Rafie said:
darkenergy said:

Does it matter to you that I was pointing something out?

 

You do know KiigelHeart made that comment after I posted that, right? Also he already knows who is Shannon Loftis so try again?

Like I said I notice something and just pointing it out.

Then you didn't have to reply to me :-p

And there are people like you who defend Sony as well.

So why do you feel the need to comment to everyone that commented back at you if the statement was corrected? Sounds to me like you're looking for an argument.

Replying to a post doesn't mean someone is looking for an arguement.



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Rafie on 11 November 2017
darkenergy said:
Aura7541 said:

And it has little to do with the topic, at hand. If you want to address other people's criticisms, then do it on topic.

I was on topic the first time you quoted me, I said something else about the topic.

Rafie said:

So why do you feel the need to comment to everyone that commented back at you if the statement was corrected? Sounds to me like you're looking for an argument.

Replying to a post doesn't mean someone is looking for an arguement.

Replying to comments after you were corrected with quips in a combative sense looks to me as if you're looking for an argument. Let's dead this here. We're off topic and it's going no where. Besides....its been days dude. Let it go.



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Errorist76 on 11 November 2017
Bandorr said:
"Too Few Exclusives In 2017"
""I'm a little bit confused because we have a really good lineup this holiday.""
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The first line is spin wow. They immediately take it from 2017 to the "holidays" of 2017. You can't pretend everything from January to August doesn't exist.

"We've got the most popular game on the planet in PlayerUnknown's Battlegrounds--the Xbox console is going to be the only place where you can play that" other than you know... steam. Where EVERYONE is playing it.

This is a disaster of an interview.

PUBG isn’t even exclusive, only timed for the early access period.



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Errorist76 on 11 November 2017
Azzanation said:
Tulipanzo said:

I guess Forza 7 never happened. Or Halo Wars 2. Or Gears 4. Or Forza Horizon 3. Or Halo 5. 

Don't try and wiggle your way out of this one.
It's apparent Microsoft has no interest in single-player experiences. This is shown not only, as you claim, by their statements, but by their behaviour this entire gen, from supporting microtransactions-ridden games, to altering and ultimately cancelling several games which wouldn't fit the GaaS model, such as Fable Legends, Phantom Dust, Scalebound, Stormlands, Project Spark etc.

Their weak statements on the SP debauchery and their poor line-up are just confirmation to what was already known.

Just had to but in here. Which one of those games you mentioned above does not offer a campaign / single player mode?

Have to give MS credit here that atleast there car racing games have Campaign modes unlike there competition.

So this claim MS dont release Single player content games is stretching the air pretty thin. Might want to look at there competitors.

 

It’s factually incorrect that GTS doesn’t have a SP campaign. It does. It additionally has a combined SP and MP career which even features official, FIA hosted races as nation and manufacturer cups, as could be experienced the last few days.



Aura7541 on 11 November 2017
darkenergy said:
Aura7541 said:

And it has little to do with the topic, at hand. If you want to address other people's criticisms, then do it on topic.

I was on topic the first time you quoted me, I said something else about the topic.

Rafie said:

So why do you feel the need to comment to everyone that commented back at you if the statement was corrected? Sounds to me like you're looking for an argument.

Replying to a post doesn't mean someone is looking for an arguement.

You did not address other people's criticisms. Therefore, you were not on topic when you were complaining about the incorrect pronoun being used. This is not up for debate, so consider this a warning. Any attempts to drag this out will net you a moderation, especially when you've been dragging this out for days.



Ruler on 25 November 2017
caffeinade said:

I wonder if you could play Cuphead on a PS4.

Install Linux on a PS4 and boot up Windows in a VM.
You could perhaps play Cuphead on a PS4 that way.
WINE is another avenue that may work.

The devs have spoken of the possibilities of a Linux port, and it sounds like it could happen.

You can play almost anything from PC on PS4 via Linux if the Hardware allows it



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CartBlanche on 30 November 2017
KazumaKiryu said:

I would be interested.. Is Phil Spencer responsible for making sure Xbox Exclusive wants to be available for PC in the future? Every opinion can be accepted, but not this situation. Even in Xbox forums, many players are disappointed about it. Particularly annoying is the matter with "Scalebound" - the game would have been important for this year. No Chance more for Xbox in future by "Platinum Games" ?!!, i think. The staff could not believe it, when suddenly the development was over. I personally want: If 2019 a real new Xbox appears, I hope - Microsoft is more concerned with new big games and Japanese rpg-experiences.

 

Seriously Scalebound looked very annoying. Surely gamers have grown out of the who "dude-Bro" thing. And from the Scalebound trailers, the fact that kid repeated the same phrase in every game play fight scenario would me you'd most likely play this game with the sound off, once the "catch phrases" start grating after hearing them for the billionth time.



S.T.A.G.E. on 02 December 2017
CartBlanche said:
KazumaKiryu said:

I would be interested.. Is Phil Spencer responsible for making sure Xbox Exclusive wants to be available for PC in the future? Every opinion can be accepted, but not this situation. Even in Xbox forums, many players are disappointed about it. Particularly annoying is the matter with "Scalebound" - the game would have been important for this year. No Chance more for Xbox in future by "Platinum Games" ?!!, i think. The staff could not believe it, when suddenly the development was over. I personally want: If 2019 a real new Xbox appears, I hope - Microsoft is more concerned with new big games and Japanese rpg-experiences.

 

Seriously Scalebound looked very annoying. Surely gamers have grown out of the who "dude-Bro" thing. And from the Scalebound trailers, the fact that kid repeated the same phrase in every game play fight scenario would me you'd most likely play this game with the sound off, once the "catch phrases" start grating after hearing them for the billionth time.

LOL....Xbox gamers seem to be attracted are dude bro games with multiplayer.  Xbox gamers dont usually play games like Scalebound unless they were multiplat last gen. Thats something Nintendo and Sony are more used to and supporting. Spencer knows the Xbox needs diversity, but when western AAA new IP's cant even sell on the Xbox the Japanese games don't even have a shot.