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ArchangelMadzz said:

You're definitely missing the point.

There is no waiting and seeing because nothing further will happen as no investigation can be done. Unless other people speak out that is. 

Bolded two is why I'm not missing the point. Let's wait and see. 



 

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ArchangelMadzz said:
GribbleGrunger said:

I'm not missing the point, I'm accepting that people sometimes bury information or outright lie. Now, before you take the black and white view from that sentence, KNOW that I haven't in any way decided if there IS a lie or whether one party or the other has lied. 

Just let's wait and see before we judge. As it stands, this DOES suggest ND are telling the truth simply because it's a swift response and records can be examined by a third party. Nothing is off the table for me until I have more on this to decide. 

We're discussing a very serious subject on forums filled with people who wish to just use this for 'console war' fodder. I do not wish to participate in such shallow and scurrilous activities. 

You're definitely missing the point.

There is no waiting and seeing because nothing further will happen as no investigation can be done. Unless other people speak out that is. 

Speak out about what. Is there any evidence yet?



GribbleGrunger said:
ArchangelMadzz said:

You're definitely missing the point.

There is no waiting and seeing because nothing further will happen as no investigation can be done. Unless other people speak out that is. 

Bolded two is why I'm not missing the point. Let's wait and see. 

You could've just said that then this mini exchange wouldn't have happened xD



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Shitty PR considering the situation.



LudicrousSpeed said:
Shitty PR considering the situation.

Not really, its a tightly formed PR statement, what did you expect them to say... they have to be very careful in a response because the more you put into a reply statement the more chance you have of someone picking something out of it and using against you... sounds like you've already made your mind up about who is in the right or wrong here?

As Gribble has said, we really need to see how this plays out. Could there be someone like this in a company, yes, could the person making the complaint be lying, yes. Seriously the internet being judge and jury isnt very pleasant.



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There's not enough evidence to suggest that the accuser is telling the truth or the accused is telling the truth. There's even the possibility that both the accuser and accused are lying, and the truth is somewhere in between the two stories they claimed. One thing's for sure is that it's a really bad idea to merely 'listen and believe'.



LudicrousSpeed said:
Shitty PR considering the situation.

We don't even know the situation.  Shitty witch hunt without any evidence. 



LudicrousSpeed said:
Shitty PR considering the situation.

How so?  If they're lying then, yes, it's obviously bad, but if they're telling the truth then this is exactly what they should have said.



Wow. Their response is a flat out denial. Of course, they could be denying it if it was agreed upon that it wouldn't be mentioned, but that's a huge risk at this stage. The accuser sounds like he'll have to provide more evidence. It's gonna suck though since it's him vs. the entirety of Sony, who's gonna go through every expense to cover their asses.



Before people go on about rape culture or whatever, we should seriously just wait for all evidence

Imagine having someone accuse you of rape. I'm sure you wouldn't enjoy seeing thousands of people insult you and wish you were raped/killed/tortured