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Forums - Politics - In California, it is no longer a felony to knowingly infect someone with HIV

iron_megalith on 11 October 2017
numberwang said:
Let's add some spice

Thought it was a joke then found out it was actually real.

This is place is literally fucked.



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Cubedramirez on 11 October 2017

This the cancer which is the progressive ideology. Keep that shit in California.



Cubedramirez on 11 October 2017
CosmicSex said:
This isn't crazy. HIV really isn't the problem because most people are on meds or prep (if you are having risky raw sex). The problem is things like chlamydia, syphilis, and gonorrhea which run absolutely rampant. And they are on the rise this apps like Grinder and Tender. And there is no law tell you to say if you have those things.

If you are upset about the HIV thing, you really don't know what actually going on. Talk to a doctor before you get on here bashing California. Understand why it was a law in the first place before you speak about something you don't know.

This is quite honestly the dumbest thing I've read in a long time. 

And I read a lot..



irstupid on 11 October 2017
iron_megalith said:
numberwang said:
Let's add some spice

Thought it was a joke then found out it was actually real.

This is place is literally fucked.

He signed lots of fun new laws.

Brown also signed another law last week that shortened the length of time some sex offenders have to remain on the sex offender registry.

So in conclusion:

1. Have sex with people spreading HIV and not telling them equals 6 months in prison

2. Calling someone the wrong pronoun equals 1 year in prison

3. Shorten time people are on sex offender list

 

All in all, I would say some outstanding work by the California governer.



iron_megalith on 11 October 2017
irstupid said:
iron_megalith said:

Thought it was a joke then found out it was actually real.

This is place is literally fucked.

He signed lots of fun new laws.

Brown also signed another law last week that shortened the length of time some sex offenders have to remain on the sex offender registry.

So in conclusion:

1. Have sex with people spreading HIV and not telling them equals 6 months in prison

2. Calling someone the wrong pronoun equals 1 year in prison

3. Shorten time people are on sex offender list

 

All in all, I would say some outstanding work by the California governer.

To think they have the resource to be paranoid about Trump.

Definitely gonna save up to get out of this state in case they do more stupid laws like these. I'd rather take my chances in Virginia.



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Birimbau on 11 October 2017

On the other hand, if you call a dude a man and he says he is a woman, he can sue you and you are fucked. California is a liberal lost territory.



LurkerJ on 12 October 2017
Ka-pi96 said:
CosmicSex said:
This isn't crazy. HIV really isn't the problem because most people are on meds or prep (if you are having risky raw sex). The problem is things like chlamydia, syphilis, and gonorrhea which run absolutely rampant. And they are on the rise this apps like Grinder and Tender. And there is no law tell you to say if you have those things.

If you are upset about the HIV thing, you really don't know what actually going on. Talk to a doctor before you get on here bashing California. Understand why it was a law in the first place before you speak about something you don't know.

So because there's other diseases that aren't treated as a crime if you intentionally give someone them this one shouldn't be either?

Not to mention, all of the other diseases mentioned are caused by bacteria and they're easily treated once detected. How can you compare them to HIV is beyond me.

... and I love the "just wear a condom" solution. Condom sales are at all time high and STD infestations, including HIV, are only going up, even in countries with declining populations. Trusting people to do the right thing when they're horny is just ridiculous.

If HIV carriers are putting themselves out there for one night stands or long-term dating, the first thing they should say about themsevles is that they're infected with HIV and make sure the other side is OK with that. It's the MORAL thing to do. Scratch that, it's the NICE thing to do (Some libs only respond positively when you question how "nice" they are to others). To be fair, most of the liberals here, including me, have been reasonable with their opinions so far.



Nem on 12 October 2017
Ka-pi96 said:
Nem said:


Sure. So you prefer a Social progression example? Slavery. Used to be the norm, and it became shuned upon with progressivism.

Was it for the worse? Doesn't fit your agenda eh?

Really, don't care about your agenda on this progressivism you are trying to bring though.

This measure is a well intended change and while i think it's trying to jump too far in, it has a good intention and perhaps isn't the best idea. Yet, this by no means supports whatever nonsense you are trying to bring across.

Legalising poisoning people is a good intention?

No, ending discrimination is a good intention. Yet, this is misguided, as i repeatidly said.

Aeolus451 said:
Nem said:


Sure. So you prefer a Social progression example? Slavery. Used to be the norm, and it became shuned upon with progressivism.

Was it for the worse? Doesn't fit your agenda eh?

Really, don't care about your agenda on this progressivism you are trying to bring though.

This measure is a well intended change and while i think it's trying to jump too far in, it has a good intention and perhaps isn't the best idea. Yet, this by no means supports whatever nonsense you are trying to bring across.

Again, stop trying to claim trophies for progressivism that it didn't earn. Progressivism as an polititical ideology of today that's "progressive" in name only. It doesn't progress anything forward but rather everything in a circle to the point that often leaves things worse off like in this case.

This recent act of liberal lunancy is not well intended but rather a perfect example of how much thought goes into laws before democrats pass them. 

I'm sorry but you are full of the proverbial BS. Not even worth continuing this.

You are pushing an agenda and picking and choosing what interests you. That BS might run with some of your American buddies but it sure won't with an european.



animegaming on 12 October 2017

Wow someone must not want to be reelected.



Aeolus451 on 12 October 2017
Nem said:
Ka-pi96 said:

Legalising poisoning people is a good intention?

No, ending discrimination is a good intention. Yet, this is misguided, as i repeatidly said.

Aeolus451 said:

Again, stop trying to claim trophies for progressivism that it didn't earn. Progressivism as an polititical ideology of today that's "progressive" in name only. It doesn't progress anything forward but rather everything in a circle to the point that often leaves things worse off like in this case.

This recent act of liberal lunancy is not well intended but rather a perfect example of how much thought goes into laws before democrats pass them. 

I'm sorry but you are full of the proverbial BS. Not even worth continuing this.

You are pushing an agenda and picking and choosing what interests you. That BS might run with some of your American buddies but it sure won't with an european.

uh huh. You might want to step out of your little bubble and see what reality is like.