I don't think very many people actually expect that though. None that I know of in the Xbox empire thread. Maybe snoopy 😂. Being a hardcore Xbox fan I sure as heck don't. The gen is over obviously. Europe is done. Is it possible in my biased opinion that Xbox can take some months going forward in the US AND U.K... yes. But even then it will certainly never beat PS4 worldwide(besides maybe Scorpio launch week).

Look gribble Im a Xbox fan and want to see Microsoft support it going forward. It even needs more support in the game development side. I'm not sure if Xbox one is a success or failure. It would depend on how much if any money they have/are making. But it's certainly a disappointment to go from 25 million xbox's, to 80 million 360's to where it's at now isn't good. I fear if the x disappoints ms will either stop making consoles or only have 1 foot in the door Like it's been for 3 years or so. So yes I want the x to succeed because I already know what the s is and what it is going to do.

and to the pro being low key vs the X being high profile thought. Your right it's true but for a 500$ machine to beat a 400$ machine(with a game) it needs that extra fluff. Especially when they are both doing the same thing.

Who is doing that? Not me. It's obvious to anyone that Xbox vs PlayStation is s + x vs s + pro. But to gauge the success of the x(2nd midgen console ever) it absolutely makes sense to compare it to the pro(first mid gen console). 

 I only brought this up because is see multiple people say that if Xbox doesn't take November npd it is a disaster. I'm thinking wait a minute how is it a disaster when the damn thing is sold out and the pro only did 250k. I know for certainty that if Xbox does 1.2 million in November with 300k being the x there will be a lot of talk about Xbox being dead and the x being a DUD.

It doesn't compare though, does it. The Pro had a low profile launch because Sony just wanted to offer an upgrade to those in the know (the enthusiasts) while keeping momentum for the PS4. MS are lauching the X1X as if it's a new generation, with all the flare and flash one would associate with that. You're comparing a low key launch to a high profile launch. Comparing 'launch' numbers of the Pro is simply ignoring the continued success of the PS4. Without the Pro, the average sales of the PS4 would have declined slightly, so the Pro merely kept the momentum on track to hit Sony's targets. People are expecting the X1X to reinvigorate the XB1 market and keep the brand selling better than the PS4/PS4Pro from that point on. It's not going to happen. 

This is the proof that more people want Mario games like mario64, Super Mario Galaxy ect.

Hopefully nintendo realises this and they dont do anymore like Super Mario 3D world.

I take back what I said earlier in this thread about the fact software sales on here are not always indicative of the bigger picture. It seems as if Forza 7 has indeed not done well (at least in the UK)

Originally Posted by Bruno MB

Forza Motorsport 7 is below 30,000 units.

Sales are 22% down on Forza Motorsport 6 and 60% down on Forza Horizon 3.

The highest week one sales was for Forza Motorsport 4 with 106,000 units sold.

However, bare in mind that Forza Horizon hit the 3rd position this week in the UK due to bundles. That could well have lead to lower sales of Forza 7.

It was a lowkey launch because The XOX was announced with 6Tf of goodness and there is no way sony could have gone around beating their chests without looking really bad.