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GribbleGrunger said:
hudsoniscool said:

Who is doing that? Not me. It's obvious to anyone that Xbox vs PlayStation is s + x vs s + pro. But to gauge the success of the x(2nd midgen console ever) it absolutely makes sense to compare it to the pro(first mid gen console). 

 I only brought this up because is see multiple people say that if Xbox doesn't take November npd it is a disaster. I'm thinking wait a minute how is it a disaster when the damn thing is sold out and the pro only did 250k. I know for certainty that if Xbox does 1.2 million in November with 300k being the x there will be a lot of talk about Xbox being dead and the x being a DUD.

It doesn't compare though, does it. The Pro had a low profile launch because Sony just wanted to offer an upgrade to those in the know (the enthusiasts) while keeping momentum for the PS4. MS are lauching the X1X as if it's a new generation, with all the flare and flash one would associate with that. You're comparing a low key launch to a high profile launch. Comparing 'launch' numbers of the Pro is simply ignoring the continued success of the PS4. Without the Pro, the average sales of the PS4 would have declined slightly, so the Pro merely kept the momentum on track to hit Sony's targets. People are expecting the X1X to reinvigorate the XB1 market and keep the brand selling better than the PS4/PS4Pro from that point on. It's not going to happen. 

It was a lowkey launch because The XOX was announced with 6Tf of goodness and there is no way sony could have gone around beating their chests without looking really bad.