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sc94597 said:
Birimbau said:

China exports to US, yes, but there is no manufaturing in US anymore, everyhing is in China. If they block all chinese manufacturing imports, they have a huge problem: the lack of production capascity for these items that during the past decades moved to China.

That is all irrelevant to the point I made. We are discussing the event of a war between China and the United States in North Korea. We are talking about what China would do if the U.S attacked North Korea. A war necessarily means that trade between the countries will stop. China loses all of the leverage you keep citing. The U.S has the productive capabilities to supplement a war-economy, which isn't focused on iphones and laptops, but on bombs and guns.  

My point still stands, China is not going to cut its second largest trade partner, for North Korea. The buffer zone and fallout from the dissolution of the North Korean regime are cheaper than losing trade with the United States and possibly expanding the war beyond North Korea (which would be a global catastrophe.) If the U.S attacked North Korea, China will likely secure/annex the border regions of North Korea and let the U.S take the rest. 

China don't want 30K+ US troops in their yard, they prefer to keep NK alive and keep those troops away from their borders.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-09-09/china-warns-trump-we-will-back-north-korea-if-us-strikes-first



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Birimbau said:

 

China don't want 30K+ US troops in their yard, they prefer to keep NK alive and keep those troops away from their borders.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-09-09/china-warns-trump-we-will-back-north-korea-if-us-strikes-first

China would intervene, but not to attack the U.S troops or protect Pyongyang. They'd take part of North Korea as a temporary buffer zone, and let Pyongyang fall. 

Also the warning is just standard talk to keep up the pretenses. There are likely already secret agreements between Beijing and Washington for the event that North Korea's regime must be disposed of. This message is directed at North Korea just as much as anyone else. If China said that they wouldn't support North Korea, that would destabilize the current status-quo, which China is very much for maintaining. 



o_O.Q said:

the same justification that was used to destroy several nations in the middle east and kill millions of innocent people... and there are people here egging this on...

 

and then people wonder why there are "terrorist" attacks

If your neighbor beats his wife and kids every night and you know it's happening, do you just sit back and turn a blind eye? The US and the UN as a whole. feels it has a obligation to help defend those who can't defend themselves from power hungry leaders of other shitty countries who rule by oppression and fear. You can be the guy who watches your neighbor eventually kill his family or his family kill him. Or try to intervene and remove the issue from the situation. By any means necessary with a attack being the last resort. The US as a country has give more money to other countries as well as aid in many forms,then it does in its own backyard. 



WolfpackN64 said:
Sure, destroy a nation of 25 million people. I'm sure the rest of the world will take no issue with that whatsoever...

Pacifism isnt the answer. WHen you are dealing with someone who doesnt care what you say, will agree with you to further their own agenda and truly wants to dominate the world, force is the only option. A couple startegic EMPs and a full assault from Japan, S Korea, China, Russia and US would ensure minimal loss of life.



o_O.Q said:

what's funny about this whole situation is that supposedly its because north korean is arming itself with nukes....

the united states is the only country in the world to use a nuclear bomb on another country... and as i just said has been the country by a large margin most involved in perpetuating unprovoked attacks on other nations

Yeah, thats a bullshit statement. Yes we are the only ones to use one against someone, that is the reason the world understands that it isnt a viable option anymore. Yes the US is involved in a lot of things I dont feel we should be but we dont start conflicts. When we are attacked we attack back, sometimes at more than we should.



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cmay227 said:
o_O.Q said:

the same justification that was used to destroy several nations in the middle east and kill millions of innocent people... and there are people here egging this on...

 

and then people wonder why there are "terrorist" attacks

If your neighbor beats his wife and kids every night and you know it's happening, do you just sit back and turn a blind eye? The US and the UN as a whole. feels it has a obligation to help defend those who can't defend themselves from power hungry leaders of other shitty countries who rule by oppression and fear. You can be the guy who watches your neighbor eventually kill his family or his family kill him. Or try to intervene and remove the issue from the situation. By any means necessary with a attack being the last resort. The US as a country has give more money to other countries as well as aid in many forms,then it does in its own backyard. 

This.   Do people really think that Kim will only attack S Korea or Japan? Once he has a stockpile of nukes he could and probably would attack China as well.



JRPGfan said:
KLXVER said:
I'm not really sure what people want from Trump on this issue. North Korea threatens to nuke cities in the US on a daily basis. Should we all just laugh and go "Oh North Korea. You so silly" and that's it?

Appease the madman.

Just promis him you wont invade, tell him he can stop threating, and or launching rockets.

Thats most likely all he wants anyways. Things carry on as they are, millions of innocent people dont have to die needlessly.

 

Alot of these nations out of favor with the US, all fear amercia starting wars with them, and invadeing them.

Thus they feel they have to get nukes, to diswade the US from doing so.

Hes nearly there, he can hit california already if he wanted.

Basically hes past the point where the US can actually threaten him and it mean anything.

 

Trump should know this, unless he wants to start a war with nukes, and millions of innocents dead.

Thus he should stop threatning them, which will just provoke them to do more missil launches and strive for even more advancements in that field.

Yes, because diplomacy and appeasement always works with dictators.  It never makes them bolder when they see how much they can arm themselves and no one is willing to stop them.  Except that history says, no, it doesn't work that way.  

  



Birimbau said:

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-06-01/chinas-next-step-destroy-dollar

 

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-09-02/de-dollarization-accelerates-china-readies-yuan-priced-crude-oil-benchmark-backed-go

Good to see links to websites posting REAL NEWS on vgc.

I'd suggest following this website as well:

http://theantimedia.org/petrodollar-under-attack/



FIT_Gamer said:
I really hope he taunts them into starting a new WW. Maybe his supporters will wake the fuck up then.

If we can keep Russia and China from joining it'll be the easiest WW ever



cmay227 said:
o_O.Q said:

the same justification that was used to destroy several nations in the middle east and kill millions of innocent people... and there are people here egging this on...

 

and then people wonder why there are "terrorist" attacks

If your neighbor beats his wife and kids every night and you know it's happening, do you just sit back and turn a blind eye? The US and the UN as a whole. feels it has a obligation to help defend those who can't defend themselves from power hungry leaders of other shitty countries who rule by oppression and fear. You can be the guy who watches your neighbor eventually kill his family or his family kill him. Or try to intervene and remove the issue from the situation. By any means necessary with a attack being the last resort. The US as a country has give more money to other countries as well as aid in many forms,then it does in its own backyard. 

it saddens me that you actually believe that bullshit when you have evidence of the contrary...

 

so... uh is a better alternative to drop a bomb on your neighbours house and kill them both in other to help the abuse victim? that sounds stupid right? well what has the us been doing for the past decade?

 

where are the weapons of mass destruction? lol