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A pre-emptive strike against North Korea?

Avoid loss of human lives at all costs! 128 28.64%
 
NK will never use those w... 147 32.89%
 
We should stop them befor... 71 15.88%
 
We should stop NK before NK causes a tragedy. 101 22.60%
 
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Final-Fan said:
Azuren said:

It's either just Seoul or Seoul, Tokyo, Osaka, etc.

Either we take them out and they destroy Seoul in their death tantrum, or they attack all of our Asian allies and then they destroy more stuff in their death tantrum.

I guess what I'm saying is they're going to destroy stuff while we destroy them. Do we want to wait before or after they attack us?

And what makes you certain that they will indeed commit suicide in this way, and that it will happen soon enough that we will not be able to develop countermeasures (at least for further-out targets)? 

If someone threatens you with a loaded gun, should you not take it seriously?



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Azuren said:
Final-Fan said:

And what makes you certain that they will indeed commit suicide in this way, and that it will happen soon enough that we will not be able to develop countermeasures (at least for further-out targets)? 

If someone threatens you with a loaded gun, should you not take it seriously?

If you find yourself in a Mexican standoff, does having a better gun mean you should shoot? 



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No. Come on, America. Stop trying to blow up every country you can. No wonder half the world hates us.



We literally have hundreds of military bases all around the world and spend about 500 BILLION more on our military. North Korea is NO threat.

PLUS Japan is one of our closest allies and they have already stated that they would intervene before things got too out of hand.

I wish the dick measuring competition would just end already.



We could send Agent 47 there and fix this in like 15 minutes...



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Final-Fan said:
Azuren said:

If someone threatens you with a loaded gun, should you not take it seriously?

If you find yourself in a Mexican standoff, does having a better gun mean you should shoot? 

It means you shoot first.



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Azuren said:
Final-Fan said:

If you find yourself in a Mexican standoff, does having a better gun mean you should shoot? 

It means you shoot first.

Why, if there is a real possibility that not shooting would mean not getting shot, while shooting would assure that you are shot, but possibly less severely?

[edit:  I share Aeolus's skepticism that the rest of the world would take kindly to this beheading.] 



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Final-Fan said:
Azuren said:

It means you shoot first.

Why, if there is a real possibility that not shooting would mean not getting shot, while shooting would assure that you are shot, but probably less severely?

This is where we will disagree every time. I don't feel NK's threats are empty, and you do. We're going to have to agree to disagree on this.



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Azuren said:
Final-Fan said:

Why, if there is a real possibility that not shooting would mean not getting shot, while shooting would assure that you are shot, but probably less severely?

This is where we will disagree every time. I don't feel NK's threats are empty, and you do. We're going to have to agree to disagree on this.

What do you mean by "empty"?  I don't say that there is no chance they would do something, but I think history has demonstrated that it is far from 100%. 



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I mean, I think we'll get to this in our conversation soon enough, but I just want to volunteer the observation that North Korea is not the same as a suicide bomber. What they want does not include their own death. I do not think their leadership cadre are willing to follow a path that they believe leads to their own destruction (along with their nation's) as long as they are given a path that they believe does NOT lead to their personal destruction. However, I don't know whether they might think "If I am going down, I might as well go down in nuclear fire!" if they see no path that does not involve their own ruin, with or without the ruin of their people as well.



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