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bigtakilla said:
curl-6 said:

Oh I'm fully aware it is niche, but that doesn't really change my point, which was not that it's a mainstream blockbuster, (though I do believe as a franchise it has room to grow) and more that Ninty just isn't doing a good job of hyping it up.

It should definitely be more in the spotlight as a series, even this specific game despite it not really doing much for me emotionally with the trailers. It definitely fills a void in Nintendo's genre diversity and though only through technicality can it actually be considered first party (Nintendo buying the devs), the series stands up to their level of quality in games and game design. This series should be just as recognizable as LoZ, mind you I'm not saying from a financial standpoint but more so that Xenoblade should pop into everyones minds when someone says Nintendo. 

What's your favorite Xeno game?



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Stellar_Fungk said:
bigtakilla said:

It should definitely be more in the spotlight as a series, even this specific game despite it not really doing much for me emotionally with the trailers. It definitely fills a void in Nintendo's genre diversity and though only through technicality can it actually be considered first party (Nintendo buying the devs), the series stands up to their level of quality in games and game design. This series should be just as recognizable as LoZ, mind you I'm not saying from a financial standpoint but more so that Xenoblade should pop into everyones minds when someone says Nintendo. 

What's your favorite Xeno game?

I'm being 100% honest when I say it's like asking who your favorite child is. I love Xenoblade for the story/characters and X for the gameplay/exploration/world building. That said I do think X provides a very interesting story and characters, and I think Xenoblade Chronicles has great gameplay, chararacters, you get the idea. To answer you ? I love both equally. 



bigtakilla said:
Stellar_Fungk said:

What's your favorite Xeno game?

I'm being 100% honest when I say it's like asking who your favorite child is. I love Xenoblade for the story/characters and X for the gameplay/exploration/world building. That said I do think X provides a very interesting story and characters, and I think Xenoblade Chronicles has great gameplay, chararacters, you get the idea. To answer you ? I love both equally. 

Wow, I didn't expect those two as your favorite. I thought it was going to be Xenogears because of it's story.



I am a Nintendo fanatic.

Xenogears is mine. It's also my all time favourite game. I've been a fan of Takahashi and Soraya Saga since the GIA days.



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bigtakilla said:
curl-6 said:

Oh I'm fully aware it is niche, but that doesn't really change my point, which was not that it's a mainstream blockbuster, (though I do believe as a franchise it has room to grow) and more that Ninty just isn't doing a good job of hyping it up.

It should definitely be more in the spotlight as a series, even this specific game despite it not really doing much for me emotionally with the trailers. It definitely fills a void in Nintendo's genre diversity and though only through technicality can it actually be considered first party (Nintendo buying the devs), the series stands up to their level of quality in games and game design. This series should be just as recognizable as LoZ, mind you I'm not saying from a financial standpoint but more so that Xenoblade should pop into everyones minds when someone says Nintendo. 

Yeah that's exactly why the series is so valuable in my opinion; it brought some much needed variety to a lineup otherwise dominated entirely by kid-friendly cartoons. Which is also why its a shame to see them go the toon route visually; Nintendo really need to have at least one franchise with a mature look. Hopefully Prime 4 will be that game but to be honest, at this rate I kind of expect even that to be undermined by an unfitting toon art style.



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Stellar_Fungk said:
bigtakilla said:

I'm being 100% honest when I say it's like asking who your favorite child is. I love Xenoblade for the story/characters and X for the gameplay/exploration/world building. That said I do think X provides a very interesting story and characters, and I think Xenoblade Chronicles has great gameplay, chararacters, you get the idea. To answer you ? I love both equally. 

Wow, I didn't expect those two as your favorite. I thought it was going to be Xenogears because of it's story.

                               

Sorry it has taken me so long to get back on this, I went out of town and visited family for labor day. 

What it all comes down to for me is does the product feel complete. Xenogears essentially in no way felt complete. Now, I do understand why people say it's their favorite game. the story is very, very ambitious, but the game that is supposed to lead the player through that story is all over the freaking place. Though in my eyes it's third, I see it in top (whatever) games lists above Xenoblade and X and am completely okay with it. I get it.

Xenosaga is an odd mess. Very cool cutscenes, but seemed to more want to be a movie than it did a game, especially since it never really seemed to mesh (gameplay and story). With art direction and gameplay drastically changing in each episode, it never really felt like it was one thing. Being that the developers were doing a lot of musical chairs during this time it's easy to see why as well. In the end, it was fine. Still one of the coolest games to get into if you have huge chunks of time you are willing to sit back and watch the game with gameplay sprinkled in from time to time. As a game though, probably the weakest entry due to how disjointed the games seem from themselves and gameplay from cutscenes were. 

Xenoblade Chronicles on the other hand seems like a full game built and executed with masterful precision. People have looked down on it for having worse graphics than Xenosaga, and worse (by which case they really mean less complicated) story than Gears and why they are right on both parts, it seems to be a lot more focused as a game than the other two series. It still had a similar emotional impact as Gears and offered much more as a GAME than Saga. 

Xenoblade X is another beast of ambition. As pretty much the photo negative of Saga in which the cutscenes took backseat to the gameplay, it still was able to do what Xenosaga wasn't by having them feel natural and fluid together. You'll also never get the rush of fighting a monster and hopping in and out of your Doll shifting in and out of Overdrive and Cockpit Mode just hammering out massive damage, especially if you put in the work to get the best Dolls and augments and the modes just go on and on and you're just ripping these limbs off of monsters at higher levels (sometimes greatly higher leveled) than your character. Mira is also just full of secret areas and monsters waiting to be found. As a game it feels constantly rewarding. There are tons of characters to add to your party and learn about through missions. Tons of aliens to add to your city to expand it, and some will even offer shops that give the player new styles of armor to wear. The graphics are easily the best in the series entirety (not just the Blade series but the entire Xeno universe) by a large margine, and while some people don't like the art direction, I absolutely love it and definitely see the connection between the art style of Saga (a retelling of Gears) and Blade X. The issue with this game would be its story, which only works as a part one as it only ever really deals with immediate threats, and never really concludes any bigger picture conflicts and dangers. If they just came out and said it was a part 1 or had part 1 in the title this simply would not be an issue, the issue now though is who knows if there will ever be another X, and if so there are a lot of cliffhangers that will probably irritate me. Still as a whole it felt like a complete game, yet again that felt focused and executed to its entirety. It never feels as though X was cut short like Xenogears, even if it feels like there's a part 2 waiting to be made. It completely succeeds at bringing an alien world to life, and allowing the player to explore all of that world. The music was another hit and miss thing due to trying something new and bringing Hiroyuki Sawano into the mix who is more well known for his anime music. Essentially there are some misses, and I mean like some REAL BAD misses in the soundtrack, yet there are also some REAL BIG HITS in the soundtrack as well. It literally has some of the best and some of the worst music in the Xeno franchise. 

You may be wondering if there are a lot of little missteps in X why is it tied for 1st with a game that doesn't have as many? Simply put because so much of it actually works, and when it does, it elevates X far above the original Blade. Xenoblade X is bigger and better than the original Blade on every single level, except for the few times and ways it isn't. That's why some days I'll sit back and think that the original Blade was easily the best, no real faults and everything executed well. But then I think to how much fun I've had playing X, how much I uncovered and the depth I've found in it and what it offered over Blade and think there's no way Blade beats X.

That's simply the best way I can explain why I would rank the series the way I would.



bigtakilla said:

The music was another hit and miss thing due to trying something new and bringing Hiroyuki Sawano into the mix who is more well known for his anime music. Essentially there are some misses, and I mean like some REAL BAD misses in the soundtrack, yet there are also some REAL BIG HITS in the soundtrack as well. It literally has some of the best and some of the worst music in the Xeno franchise. 

Pretty much. Noctilum and Cauldros have awesome music, but NLA made me want to shove a power drill through my eardrums.



curl-6 said:
bigtakilla said:

It should definitely be more in the spotlight as a series, even this specific game despite it not really doing much for me emotionally with the trailers. It definitely fills a void in Nintendo's genre diversity and though only through technicality can it actually be considered first party (Nintendo buying the devs), the series stands up to their level of quality in games and game design. This series should be just as recognizable as LoZ, mind you I'm not saying from a financial standpoint but more so that Xenoblade should pop into everyones minds when someone says Nintendo. 

Yeah that's exactly why the series is so valuable in my opinion; it brought some much needed variety to a lineup otherwise dominated entirely by kid-friendly cartoons. Which is also why its a shame to see them go the toon route visually; Nintendo really need to have at least one franchise with a mature look. Hopefully Prime 4 will be that game but to be honest, at this rate I kind of expect even that to be undermined by an unfitting toon art style.

Well, we still have Retro game to be announced, and outside of DK, they have leaned more on more mature kind of graphics.But yeah, I also think that Nintendo shhould diversify more their portifolio of "appeals".



My (locked) thread about how difficulty should be a decision for the developers, not the gamers.

https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=241866&page=1

Nautilus said:
curl-6 said:

Yeah that's exactly why the series is so valuable in my opinion; it brought some much needed variety to a lineup otherwise dominated entirely by kid-friendly cartoons. Which is also why its a shame to see them go the toon route visually; Nintendo really need to have at least one franchise with a mature look. Hopefully Prime 4 will be that game but to be honest, at this rate I kind of expect even that to be undermined by an unfitting toon art style.

Well, we still have Retro game to be announced, and outside of DK, they have leaned more on more mature kind of graphics.But yeah, I also think that Nintendo shhould diversify more their portifolio of "appeals".

That's the thing though, given their last two games and Nintendo's current trends I expect their game to be a cartoon as well, which will leave their first party lineup awfully homogenous.



curl-6 said:
Nautilus said:

Well, we still have Retro game to be announced, and outside of DK, they have leaned more on more mature kind of graphics.But yeah, I also think that Nintendo shhould diversify more their portifolio of "appeals".

That's the thing though, given their last two games and Nintendo's current trends I expect their game to be a cartoon as well, which will leave their first party lineup awfully homogenous.

Hopefully thats not the case, unless the game is a masterpiece and it is so in part due to the art style.



My (locked) thread about how difficulty should be a decision for the developers, not the gamers.

https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=241866&page=1