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ironmanDX on 25 September 2017
CartBlanche said:

Pemalite said:

It certainly is great for the fans.

I am keen to see how other games get treated on the Xbox One X.

I'm failing to see how it is good for the fans if the vast majority of titles are remastered. Shouldn't new console release come with new IPs?

If gamers tolerate console manufacturers release new hardware just to replay old games with better graphics and better FPS, by the time the PS5 and XBox 2 X come out, they will just ship their new consoles with a MAME emulator :p . Then everyone can play old games and hope the devs are still around to improve the graphics.

Re the 10 Xbox One X games, does it not bother anyone that the DF review mentiond that you could ONLY see the difference between Lara Croft on X1X and PS4 Pro if you compared still images. With both games in motion, you can't tell that the X1X version has slightly better textures?

Also what about the fact that X1X still can't run Quantum Break at 4K without running into issues? Its not even running at native 4K! Come on this is supposed to be a the next leap in performance!! Is the problem the developers or the console manufacturers??

My prediction is that X1X will sell well in November, maybe December, but still won't outsell the PS4. Come January 2018 PS4 will start its march to outsell the Xbox One brand by 3:1 (it's already at 2:1 worldwide) by 2020. Come 2021 Microsoft will exit the console market and will encourage everyone to buy their games on PC and Windows 11 :p Thus explaining why all MS games are going to be multi-platform going forward. Just getting gamers used to the idea before the bombshell in 2021:D

In the video they stated even high end PC's would struggle to hit 4k on such a demanding game. It's no wonder that a console priced $499 can't do it. Keep your expectations in check.



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Kuksenkov on 25 September 2017

Hopefully many ambitious studios will shut up and get to optimize games. They'll be asking for more power in less than two years, and power is the only thing that matters to many nowadays.



AngryLittleAlchemist on 25 September 2017
ironmanDX said:
CartBlanche said:

I'm failing to see how it is good for the fans if the vast majority of titles are remastered. Shouldn't new console release come with new IPs?

If gamers tolerate console manufacturers release new hardware just to replay old games with better graphics and better FPS, by the time the PS5 and XBox 2 X come out, they will just ship their new consoles with a MAME emulator :p . Then everyone can play old games and hope the devs are still around to improve the graphics.

Re the 10 Xbox One X games, does it not bother anyone that the DF review mentiond that you could ONLY see the difference between Lara Croft on X1X and PS4 Pro if you compared still images. With both games in motion, you can't tell that the X1X version has slightly better textures?

Also what about the fact that X1X still can't run Quantum Break at 4K without running into issues? Its not even running at native 4K! Come on this is supposed to be a the next leap in performance!! Is the problem the developers or the console manufacturers??

My prediction is that X1X will sell well in November, maybe December, but still won't outsell the PS4. Come January 2018 PS4 will start its march to outsell the Xbox One brand by 3:1 (it's already at 2:1 worldwide) by 2020. Come 2021 Microsoft will exit the console market and will encourage everyone to buy their games on PC and Windows 11 :p Thus explaining why all MS games are going to be multi-platform going forward. Just getting gamers used to the idea before the bombshell in 2021:D

In the video they stated even high end PC's would struggle to hit 4k on such a demanding game. It's no wonder that a console priced $499 can't do it. Keep your expectations in check.

Too be fair, there's a lot of people on this forum that think that the Xbox One X is more powerful than a 1000$ PC :p



Cobretti2 on 25 September 2017
AlfredoTurkey said:
Cobretti2 said:
Cool that is is powerful and I would get it but Microsoft fucked up at the start of the gen so i went with the PS4. They screwed up by releasing the Halo collection not complete on disc and forcing you to get the rest of the game digitally. To me that is a big no no and turned me off.

Will I ever return to xbox? who knows.

All i will say is when iTunes first come out and I installed it and it destroyed my windows boot up for some unknown reason it turned me off iTunes and apple forever lol. I even put it on a fresh install and it had issues. So gave it two chances.

Now I am sure the program has improved but the bad experience pissed me off.

The problem with iTunes is that it was never designed for Windows. It works great on Macs.

Well you would hope it works on a mac lol.

To me it was bad enough of an experience to stay away form apple products in general. You would htink stuff liek this would matter but I guess if your sales are big anyway they don't care.

Kind of how Norton is the biggest shit we get on PCs that slows them down to a crawl. Even though they claim to rewrote it form scratch it never got better lol.



 

 

d21lewis on 26 September 2017
AlfredoTurkey said:
d21lewis said:

The world we live in, now. People buy TVs to watch the same shows. New phones to run the same apps. New consoles to play the same games.

Some of that may be true but PS4 and Switch disprove the idea that console gaming must fall to the same fate. Neither of those two machines plays the same games as their predecessors and both are selling or have sold like crazy. 

Microsoft is trying to artificially change the console business. We'll see if it works or pays off. Either way, I refuse and will hold off until true next generation machines come out. 

I have a PS4 Pro and a PS4 (and a NN3DS and a 3DS)  and inevitably there will be a Switch update. For as long as I can remember, they've been releasing console updates (which is really all the Xbox One X is). Even the PS1 and Gameboy have had multiple iterations.



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PhatChips on 26 September 2017

Lookin' good. Can't wait to try recore in 4k.



CartBlanche on 05 November 2017

The review round up is in....

The Verge:
https://www.theverge.com/2017/11/3/16599756/microsoft-xbox-one-x-review

Venturebeat:
https://venturebeat.com/2017/11/03/xbox-one-x-review-wait-and-see/

vg247
https://www.vg247.com/2017/11/03/xb...microsofts-super-machine-live-up-to-the-hype/

Godisageek:
http://www.godisageek.com/reviews/xbox-one-x-review/

Trueachievements:
https://www.trueachievements.com/n30374/xbox-one-x-review

engadget:
https://www.engadget.com/2017/11/03/xbox-one-x-review/


gamespot:
https://www.gamespot.com/articles/xbox-one-x-review/1100-6454609/

arstechnica:
https://www.cnet.com/uk/products/microsoft-xbox-one-x/review/

Paul Thurrot:
https://www.thurrott.com/xbox/xbox-one/143087/xbox-one-x-first-impressions-4k-era-arrives

So does anyone actually see a review here that says it is a MUST have product, so that it flies off the shelves?
The hard-core gamers and early adopters will always love something new, shiny, faster and with beefed up graphics. They will always lead the way, but history suggests that they cause an initial sales spike. The real money is when casual gamers sees value in getting an X1X. If we can't convince the casual gamers the X1X is a must have upgrade, then it being faster, more powerful etc etc, is a great bullet point, but nothing more in the long run.

From reading all the reviews the overall theme seems to be, get the X1X if you:
1. Have 4K TV (still early days, at least in the UK)
2. Want to play your old Xbox games at a higher frame-rate and resolution.
3. You want to play multi-platform games on a more powerful system.
4. Is within your budget this Xmas season.