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AngryLittleAlchemist said:

This thread makes no sense to me. "Why is Age of Empires exclusive to PC if phil spencer cares about exclusives"?

If this was on Xbox One and PC, this entire website would be bashing Microsoft for not having exclusives for Xbox. Putting it on Xbox would just meant it wasn't an exclusive because it would also have to be on PC. Unless you're saying it should be exclusive to Xbox and not on PC? I honestly don't get it. If Phil Spencer cared about exclusives for Xbox .. then putting AoE on Xbox wouldn't do anything because it wouldn't be an exclusive. If you want it exclusive to Xbox then that makes no sense ... it's a PC-oriented game. All this shows me is that MS is actually doing something decent and making a game around it's platform, not around a dumb ecosystem.

As much as makes no sense when Phil promises exclusives for X1 and release basically nothing (even if we ignore that Play Anywhere makes it basically have no exclusive).



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Zoombael said:
Are you nuts? Microsoft finally does something right, dont spoil it. This way (if it stays PC exclzsive) AoE 4 has a chance of being at least satisfyingly good.

/thread

Also, anyone saying AoE 2 wasn't dumbed down for PS2 has no idea what they are talking about.



DonFerrari said:
AngryLittleAlchemist said:

This thread makes no sense to me. "Why is Age of Empires exclusive to PC if phil spencer cares about exclusives"?

If this was on Xbox One and PC, this entire website would be bashing Microsoft for not having exclusives for Xbox. Putting it on Xbox would just meant it wasn't an exclusive because it would also have to be on PC. Unless you're saying it should be exclusive to Xbox and not on PC? I honestly don't get it. If Phil Spencer cared about exclusives for Xbox .. then putting AoE on Xbox wouldn't do anything because it wouldn't be an exclusive. If you want it exclusive to Xbox then that makes no sense ... it's a PC-oriented game. All this shows me is that MS is actually doing something decent and making a game around it's platform, not around a dumb ecosystem.

As much as makes no sense when Phil promises exclusives for X1 and release basically nothing (even if we ignore that Play Anywhere makes it basically have no exclusive).

Yeah I agree...but this thread is specifically referencing Age of Empires when that's not a problem for AoE, it's a problem for other games like GoW or Forza. It's a problem with Xbox not AoE, the game not being on Xbox is arguably a positive.



Chazore said:
Because it's still exclusive to the MS division of gaming?.

There are exclusives that are on Xbox that Phil hasn't tossed to PC (yet). I don't see why both sides can't have their own exclusives. The RTS genre is pretty much a perfect fit for PC as well as the genre having come from it.

There also happens to be millions of PC gamers out there, bigger than the 30m on Xbox. if they aim for both Steam and Win 10 store, they can easily make bank.

You can play a certain type of RTS on consoles, but not every RTS under the sun will work well with one,e specially gamepad wise. Look at C&C RA3, C&C 3 and KW,, all 3 of those had to have a command wheel designed for the gamepad, on it's own the gamepad isn't going to cut it, while with a M+K you don't need any special wheel or UI design that's out of the ordinary of what you already see on PC.

I honestly don't get why you push this each and every time PC gets something.

Now exclusives are good when its only on your platform? If Xbox exclusives go all to PC then Age of Empires should also come out for Xbox there is no excuses. You got almost every game except Sunset overdrive.

You know that in multiplayer on the other end of the line you have someone sitting with a controller there too? And i seriously dont get how anyone cant beat a computer on an RTS game, even with a controller. Its like the most easy genre offline ounce you figure each game out, dueto RTS games being too complex for artificial inttelegence.



Because Xbox will eventually just be a downloading service for PC. Come on, they just shrunk the Xbox division funding.



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Zoombael said:
Are you nuts? Microsoft finally does something right, dont spoil it. This way (if it stays PC exclzsive) AoE 4 has a chance of being at least satisfyingly good.

Good for whom? Less gamers who buy and play the game is good now?

Nogamez said:
Who da fook wants that on xbox???                                     

Me maybe, i much rather get an Xbox for it than upgrading to a new windows with its hazzle, or maybe not getting it at all

 

VGPolyglot said:
But by making it only on PC, it is an exclusive                                     

I mean console exclusive which is Microsoft difinition of it



At this point, it's worth it to just have Xbox One be a full Windows 10 box with mouse and keyboard support.

Think about how attractive this bundle sounds to the average consumer
Xbox One S
Mouse and Keyboard
Media remote
Age of Empires 4
Halo
Microsoft Office

I'm serious - I consider that Microsoft's most tempting offering.



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Its probably because the game is not designed for play on a console. The mechanics probably do not port well and the experience of the developers doing the game may also not be high enough for a port. Budget also comes into play where Relic only asked for so much to do a PC game which MS green lit. This game may be totally focused on the PC ecosystem and thus gives the developers a chance to focus on just one platform. Who knows, if it sell well on the PC, there could be a port in the works by sending it to Ensemble. Timing could also be an issue where Ensemble is currently busy and do not have time or resources for a port.



Ruler said:

Now exclusives are good when its only on your platform? If Xbox exclusives go all to PC then Age of Empires should also come out for Xbox there is no excuses. You got almost every game except Sunset overdrive.

You know that in multiplayer on the other end of the line you have someone sitting with a controller there too? And i seriously dont get how anyone cant beat a computer on an RTS game, even with a controller. Its like the most easy genre offline ounce you figure each game out, dueto RTS games being too complex for artificial inttelegence.

I just said that there were exclusives that MS hasn't tossed to PC, I take it you didn't want to read and instead wanted to paint me with the typical paintbrush you're fond of using. 

There are zero excuses for exclusives on Xbox not to go to PC and the same for the other systems as well if we're going to go down that road. 

"You know that in multiplayer on the other end of the line you have someone sitting with a controller there too?"

What has that got to do with AoE being played on PC?. Are you implying that 90% of PC gamers always play with a gamepad for everything?.

Can't beat a CPU player with a gamepad?. I dunno, there are plenty of people out there who aren't good at many things, even against elite AI. I just played a game of heroes of the Storm and my entire team got whipped silly by elite AI, while I tried carrying them.

 

That last part is just confusing as hell.



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Ruler said:
Nogamez said:
Who da fook wants that on xbox???                                     

Me maybe, i much rather get an Xbox for it than upgrading to a new windows with its hazzle, or maybe not getting it at all

So when do you plan of buying the X1 then?, along with it;s entire library, since you're so into the MS ecosystem.

 

Upgrading to 10 isn't really a hassle at all. I have my dislikes of certain aspects of 10, but it's not the end of the world with using it. You just don't want to have anything to do with PC gaming at all tbh.



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