This happened to multiplats on the Wii and Wii U..

Their saying "want to play with your friends who have PS4's? get a PS4".

Why throw away that edge if it makes them sell more PS4s? because MS says so? because its user friendly?

Cross play between PlayStation/Xbox didn't need to happen last gen, doesn't need to happen this gen. Either way Sony allows cross play and have a richer history in this aspect than microsoft. What Sony doesn't allow is interfacing with Xbox. This debate isn't "Sony won't allow cross play". This debate is "Sony won't allow Xbox". And it's hilarious that known Xbox fans are coming in here and trying to frame the issue differently. 

I disagree. It needed to happen as soon as consoles had multiplats that could go online. Aka. Xbox/Playstation 2/Dreamcast era.

Well. That's two faced isn't it? Because Sony allowed Steam to interface with it. - And Steam is larger than Playstation and Xbox combined, it's probably their largest competitor.
Fact is, it is Sony that is not allowing this to happen, no one else, tons of developers have come out and complained about it, gamers obviously keep demanding it, news sites keep reporting on it. - So clearly people want it.

I couldn't give a crap for the reasoning/politics. Cross-platform games needed to happen generations ago.

Also. I am not an "Xbox Fan". Don't frame me as such if that is your intention, I dislike all consoles equally.

(Correct me if i am wrong) Sony has never done this before to my knowledge, they are doing what they have always done and cross-play with PC. Xbox and Nintendo are doing what would be a first and that’s merging competitive consoles together with cross-play something Sony hasn’t done and doesn’t seem like they want to do. Aside from a couple 3rd party games taking Initiative and working around the networks.

If Sony don’t want to use Xbox's network than I honestly don’t see why MS still allow their game on their HW. Put the shoe on the other foot here. If Sony released TLOU2 on XB1 and told Xbox that you have to use PSN, would you see a problem with that? I wouldn’t, I would use their network if it’s their game I am trying to play.

I thought about that aswell, However look at it from the other angle, if Minecraft isnt sold on PS4 than Xbox just gained a killer app which would lead to more hardware sales etc so its not exactly a lose situation if Minecraft wasnt sold on PS4 as you might think. 

Actually PSN has more MAU than steam or Microsoft. And as of 2013, PSN had over 110 million users. That was 4 years ago. As of 2015, steam had 125 million users which was 2 years ago. PSN is roughly the size of steam on its own, definitely over if you throw xbl into the mix. And if it needed to happen then... How did we suffer? I'm curious what kind of fringe case scenarios we're talking here. I remember playing shadow run on my 360 that was cross play with PC and that game had trouble finding full matches a few months after launch. On the flip side, I can boot my PS3 up right now and go find a match of call of duty BO2. the quality of a game will go a lot farther in player retention than cross play play will, unless the game in question is on a dying platform. That's not something thatbplaystation users have to deal with though so how does it benefit us? The real draw I can see would be playing with my friends from the other side. It wouldn't be about trying to keep games active longer.it would be about playing with friends. So on that note, why doesn't Microsoft allow cross play between Windows store and steam?  You want to talk hypocrisy, it's right there.

It was not my intention to frame you as an Xbox fan. I was speaking generally based on feedback from here and GAF. With that being said, I believe you are partial to Microsoft based on your past comments but your platform of choice is PC. Is that wrong?

Not a big deal, I honestly don't care for cross play. We all grew up without cross play so a game that doesn't get cross play is just like any other day. If a game does get cross play, great, but not a big deal cause I'd still be playing online with a bunch of people regardless.

And If there's an online multiplat game that I really want to play I'll just buy it for whichever system/pc that has the most userbase. That's what I did with Overwatch and you dont see anybody complaining that there's no cross play for that. (if there was, then it must've been so insignificant like all these other complaints about cross play and these other games)

MS didn't want cross play last gen, didnt bother me and didnt stop me from gaming online. Sony doesn't want it this gen, still doesn't bother me and i'll still continue to game online.

Not really a killer app if that app can be had on smart phones, PC, tablets, toasters, my kitchen sink, a smart fridge etc.

It's hilarious that you want Microsoft to punish Sony for being "anti consumer" (no cross play with Xbox) by Microsoft themselves being anti consumer (you don't get this update unless you give in to our demands!). Speaks volumes about your character.

Nah that's silly if you want to see games with almost no userbase play some PSVR games MP. Even then some PS4 games that i play could use cross play, DQ heroes II MP is basically dead. Only when you go online on saturday evening you find people play the game. It annoyed me especially for some of the trophies it is a must to play the MP.