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Donutsticks said:
Chris Hu said:

The South lost there should have never been any statues of Confedrates anywhere in the first place you don't see any statues of Hitler in Germany and since the fall of the Iron Curtain you no longer see any statues of Marx, Lenin,  or Stalin in Eastern Europe. 

I guess me and you will just have to disagree, I believe Confederate soldiers deserve to be remembered to. 

If you want to rememeber Confederate soldiers then go to a Confederate cementary no one is against those.  But Confederate Monuments shouldn't be on public property since the main think the stood for is slavery and opression of people.



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ratuscafoarterea said:
Chris Hu said:

They are not important part of our history the Confederacy main legacy was slavery plus they where traitors what is next you want statues of Benedict Arnold.  Also you should actually read the wiki threads you linked and you would realize that pretty much all of the remainig statues of Lenin, Stalin and Marx are now on private property and not public land like before the fall of the wall.   So yeah anthor useless reply.  Also going back to your previous useless reply since no country actually ever had a real communist government the actual death toll from communism is actually close to zero not 80 million.  Unregulated capitalism which is the polar oposite of communism on the other hand has a death toll way above 100 million.  Unregulated capitalism gave us such plesantries as slavery, slave wages, child labor, 40+ hour work weeks, unsafe work enviroments, massive polution etc. etc.

I just love how you lefty's refuse to explain what “real communism” stands for, how it supposed to work, and be different then the version the Communist Block/USSR used. Also, love how Antifa/left-wing use the exact same symbol as the Communist Block/USSR used. That right there shows you have no clue, and it shows the you’re no better than the fascists using the nazi symbols.

 

democratic socialism does not equal communism. Please do some research.

Edit: nevermind my mistake, I reread your statement.



supafly said:

If you don't vote Democrat or communist (Sanders) then you are: racist, uneducated, misogynist, white supremacist, live in a trailer, poor, homophobe, bible thumper, deplorable, redneck, southern... Should really make a bingo game out of it. They wonder why Republicans have majority of every branch, yet still use the same elementary name calling tactics, and racial/social politics. I mean did the demographic of USA voters change from voting for a black man twice, to a bunch of white supremacists? Doesn't add up. “The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, but expecting different results" and if you step back and look at their actions, they way they present themselves, and their moral ground, there does seem to be a consistency of some form of insanity. 👌

The reason the orange one won is because most people didn't vote.  Plus its not like he won by a landslide since he actually lost the popular vote by over 3 million votes.



deskpro2k3 said:
iron_megalith said:

Wow. The only difference is one took it a step further. But otherwise, Nazis didn't start at what most people remember them to be.

So stop downplaying a budding extremist and say you can't compare them to that because they're "minor". Everything starts from small things then progresses to being the worst thing ever.

Also not just Antifa. BLM is also part of this shit that leftists are cuddling in their arms. Before someone throws nobody on the left killed anyone, there were dead cops a few months back. Guess we just turn a blind eye on that and focus on the White Supremacists just because they've been here longer.

I guess you missed the fact check I did earlier, or you're one of those that will down play facts. Since 2015, there have been 16 death cause by white supremacist, and 0 from antifa. I suggest you go take a look at that. You sound like a Nazi sympathizer.

From the top of my head, I remember last year there was an incident where a BLM supporter killed five cops in Dallas, and then another BLM supporter killed three cops at Baton Rouge.  And before you’re going to say that Antifa and BLM are different, that’s not the case, Antifa was created to support BLM.



deskpro2k3 said:
ratuscafoarterea said:

I just love how you lefty's refuse to explain what “real communism” stands for, how it supposed to work, and be different then the version the Communist Block/USSR used. Also, love how Antifa/left-wing use the exact same symbol as the Communist Block/USSR used. That right there shows you have no clue, and it shows the you’re no better than the fascists using the nazi symbols.

 

democratic socialism does not equal communism. Please do some research.

I think you should read his post again.

He clearly used the word communism, no social democratic references.



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ratuscafoarterea said:
deskpro2k3 said:

I guess you missed the fact check I did earlier, or you're one of those that will down play facts. Since 2015, there have been 16 death cause by white supremacist, and 0 from antifa. I suggest you go take a look at that. You sound like a Nazi sympathizer.

From the top of my head, I remember last year there was an incident where a BLM supporter killed five cops in Dallas, and then another BLM supporter killed three cops at Baton Rouge.  And before you’re going to say that Antifa and BLM are different, that’s not the case, Antifa was created to support BLM.

 

BLM supporter doen't equate to BLM member the guy that killed the five cops wasn't a actual member of BLM.  The guy that killed the woman and injured 20 on the other hand was a actual member of a hate group and big time Hitler fan.



Soundwave said:
Slimebeast said:

To look at people as individuals yes, but society is made up of individuals who form groups.

You want to live in a multicultural society. I respect that, but I do not respect that you're trying to force this on everyone else as it's some kind of inevitable natural law.

I want to live in a society that is predominantly white, just like my forefathers have for thousands of years. It's perfectly natural and sane, and therefore I'm advancing this idea by democratic means and free speech, just like the majority of guys in Charlotsville were.

I love white culture and the white race, and I'm going to resist any attempts to eradicate my people, and I'm going to call out anybody who try to demonize us. Especially those who support the self-determination of other ethnic groups in the world, but reject this idea when it comes to white people because that's hypocritical, unfair and simply evil.

No immigrant, no black person, etc. gives two shits about "stopping white culture". In fact many/most enjoy white culture too. 

People just want a better quality of life, that's it period. We have a planet with 7 billion people, some of them are going to want oppurtunities available to them in the West. The last thing on the minds of most of these people is anything to do with eradicating any culture. 

You are still free to do whatever "white cultural" things you want. That said "culture" is not some monolithic thing, most "white people" from 200 years ago wouldn't recoginize modern culture at all, not becuse of immigrants but because life changes radically. It's not white people are walking around dressed in lagerhosen. 

Racial identity is losing it's "be all/end all" appeal, but that's simply logically, that could only maintain itself in a world where relatively speaking where there is no modern technology. But in a world where there is cheap mass transportation, internet, television, a global economy, etc. etc. that exposes people to the entire world from a young age and allows them to travel anywhere easily, humanity was always going to be very different from that point on. 

Europeans need to stop mixing America in with that too ... America is and always has been fairly different from Europe. For one, in America most whites don't really identify any real European specific heritage let alone speak any non-English European languges or give two shits about anything Europe really. If you can took the names off the map it's likely most white people here couldn't even name all the European countries. It's a wholly different culture and it's always had people of color and today is inevitbly headed towards a 50-50 split wherein there is no majority group.

I don't accuse immigrants of wanting to eradicate or stop white culture, although I accuse many Western socialists of it because they're often outspoken enemies of nation states and seek a globalized world. But still, due to demographic reasons and mathematical facts, these people who you describe "are going to want opportunities available to them in the West" will completely change the nature of the West into something I'm deeply opposed to, for a huge variety of reasons (cultural, economic, crime, development level, ethical and so on).

You're talking about a 50-50 split, but that's only the next step. What comes after that? 60-40, 70-30, 80-20... and eventually total annihilation. Because there's almost no end to people from the third world who wants to live here.

Already today the society I live in is negatively affected by this mass movement of people, and like I've said many times, young ethnic Swedes are only a few years away from becoming a minority. In their own freaking country! How can that be right? Fast forward only a couple decades and we're a clear minority. Look even further in the future and we'll be a tiny minority. Dominated by foreigners and foreign culture, completely subjugated to their will.

I am already living in a society with many alien cultural expressions I simply do not like, with lots of people who don't feel any loyalty or solidarity to the nation and other citizens except for their own tribes, with a strained economy that means I have to work much harder to be able to help and support my loved ones, with increased crime and chaos, with corrupted institutions, with perverted morals and societal rules. And it just keeps going in the wrong direction by each day.

I absolutely totally reject that, and there's no natural law or something unavoidable that says such a development cannot be avoided. And there's nothing that says that this development must progress at the absolutely insane speed it's doing today, where the streets and neighborhoods are changing in front of your eyes almost from day to day. Where all of a sudden you feel like a stranger walking in your own country.

I agree that America in its nature is a lot more naturally multicultural in many ways, than European nations are. It's largely a melting pot and I don't have a problem with some nations being multicultural, like settler nations like the USA. Therefore I'm not nearly as passionate in opposing migration in the case of the US as I am when it comes to European nations. And yet, I recognize the US as a predominantly white nation and I prefer that setting quite strongly.

It's very similar to how I don't want any other nation in the world to become dominated by foreigners, be it Japan, Greece, Nigeria, Poland, Chile, Germany, Korea, Russia, United Kingdom or Italy etc etc.



Chris Hu said:
ratuscafoarterea said:

From the top of my head, I remember last year there was an incident where a BLM supporter killed five cops in Dallas, and then another BLM supporter killed three cops at Baton Rouge.  And before you’re going to say that Antifa and BLM are different, that’s not the case, Antifa was created to support BLM.

 

BLM supporter doen't equate to BLM member the guy that killed the five cops wasn't a actual member of BLM.  The guy that killed the woman and injured 20 on the other hand was a actual member of a hate group and big time Hitler fan.

So, you say that being the supported of an organization, doesn’t necessarily equals believing and sharing the same ideologies, values, views, as that specific organizations. Right, right, I think you’ve just shoot yourself in the foot ….

You know, it’s funny how you lefty’s are quick to point out that KKK members are Trump supporters, and therefore Trump is indirectly guilty, but when the same logic works against you , you do the 180..... right, right in the foot

 



Chris Hu said:
Slimebeast said:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_statues_of_Vladimir_Lenin

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_statues_of_Stalin

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Marx_Monument

Also, think of all the thousands statues of brutal kings from the past that stand all over Europe. They're kept and looked after by our authorities because they're important part of our history, just like Donutsticks said.

They are not important part of our history the Confederacy main legacy was slavery plus they where traitors what is next you want statues of Benedict Arnold.  Also you should actually read the wiki threads you linked and you would realize that pretty much all of the remainig statues of Lenin, Stalin and Marx are now on private property and not public land like before the fall of the wall.   So yeah anthor useless reply.  Also going back to your previous useless reply since no country actually ever had a real communist government the actual death toll from communism is actually close to zero not 80 million.  Unregulated capitalism which is the polar oposite of communism on the other hand has a death toll way above 100 million.  Unregulated capitalism gave us such plesantries as slavery, slave wages, child labor, 40+ hour work weeks, unsafe work enviroments, massive polution etc. etc.

This in a nutshell is why communism is so dangerous and why it's the worst poison that has ever afflicted mankind.



ratuscafoarterea said:
Chris Hu said:

BLM supporter doen't equate to BLM member the guy that killed the five cops wasn't a actual member of BLM.  The guy that killed the woman and injured 20 on the other hand was a actual member of a hate group and big time Hitler fan.

So, you say that being the supported of an organization, doesn’t necessarily equals believing and sharing the same ideologies, values, views, as that specific organizations. Right, right, I think you’ve just shoot yourself in the foot ….

 

He wasn't a actual member so you can't really blame the 5 death on BLM and the only one that is shooting himself in the foot is you with your comments.