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Bandorr said:
Mnementh said:

It's always the first assumption if it is about Nintendo, so why shouldn't we assume the same for Sony?

So one wrong makes another wrong acceptable?  Wouldn't that be even more reason to NOT do that?

All companies often tell us stuff to cover up for bad policy. If they can't deliver a good reasoning the assumptions in this direction will grow. And it is fair: after all companies would give their reasoning if they have the feeling players would accept that. If we always wait for and believe the official explanation, companies would get away with basically everything, they would've just not have to talk about it. But we should talk about bad policies and bad decisions. The only way to improvement.

 

And wow this blind defensiveness. Sony doesn't permittign cross-play with competitors consoles might be good for Sony, but not for gamers. I don't see that I have to take the position of the company (any company), but I have to take my position as gamer. And for me it is better if I can play RocketLeague and Minecraft with players from different platforms. Not too big a deal, but nothing I have to take the position of the company barring the better experience for the players:



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Sony being the Trump in gaming, keeping people with different preferences divided. Truly sad.

 

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Green098 said:

They have a give a reason - https://www.theverge.com/2017/6/15/15807138/sony-playstation-cross-network-play-xbox-block-response

And that's why people are assuming exactly that.

But that was about Minecraft, was it not? People are adding Rocket League after. Because Rocket League. They ignore the fact it's been cross play between PC and PS4 from the start because of reasons.

Regardless of sides, things are petty. I can understand Sony not wanting users logging into Xbox Live, as you can too but if their reason for Rocket League, a game you can't mod, is to 'Protect the children.' Then that seems bullcrap and petty. I just don't think we know the true reason.

sethnintendo said:

I had to register email for Tropico 4 also.  I don't want to create an account; I don't want to give you my email, etc... Can you understand someone with this viewpoint?  I just want to play the fucking game not have to create accounts for every fucking company.

I got annoyed when i purchase Elite Dangerous and it asked me to link/create and account. I already had one as I got 'Elite' for free from them years ago but that's not the point. I even have a Xbox Live Account which I've used to get freebies too.

I do not however have a Ubisoft account, which means I haven't purchase an Ubisoft game or participated in any of their free Betas over the last many years and I don't intend on creating one.

Mnementh said:

It's always the first assumption if it is about Nintendo, so why shouldn't we assume the same for Sony?

I've never had that thought about them, they are like the industries chill guy. They are like "Great, you guys go over there and argue while we make another awesome Mario game everyone buys." No arrogance, they just get on with it.



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sethnintendo said:
LudicrousSpeed said:

1. This doesn't explain why they aren't allowing crossplay with Xbox on Rocket League.

2. Does it really matter if it needs an XBL login? In order to play many EA titles online you need an Origin account. In order to play many Ubisoft titles you need an UbiClub or whatever account. When I bought GTA V on Xbone I was forced to log in to an old Rockstar Club account before playing. Etc, etc. It doesn't matter.

Sony is just caught up in their own hubris just like MS was last gen when they shunned cross platform play. Just like with EA Access. Give any of these three console companies a taste of success and they literally get retarded on you.

I view that as a major problem.  I was surprised that I had to create a free xbox live account when I bought GTA4 on Steam.  I had to create the fucking account to just play single player and be able to save the game because it was Games for Windows Live.  It might not piss you off but all these seperate sign ups and shit are annoying to me. 

I had to register email for Tropico 4 also.  I don't want to create an account; I don't want to give you my email, etc... Can you understand someone with this viewpoint?  I just want to play the fucking game not have to create accounts for every fucking company.

I'm with you on the seperate sign ups/logins for various games. It's don't like having to do it, and I usually avoid any game that requires it. As for specifically signing into XBL? Haha, ya, that's happening. That divorce is final. No children. And the plan is to never see each other again.



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VGPolyglot said:
Cross-platform play would be really cool, the PS4 is my main console, I don't see why other PS4 owners would just not want it.

Because it shrinks their exclusive boners.



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The Fury said:
Mnementh said:

It's always the first assumption if it is about Nintendo, so why shouldn't we assume the same for Sony?

I've never had that thought about them, they are like the industries chill guy. They are like "Great, you guys go over there and argue while we make another awesome Mario game everyone buys." No arrogance, they just get on with it.

Nintendo has done their fair amount of bullshit. Recently I'm unhappy with their seemingly discontinuation of Miiverse.



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Pemalite said:
Sony should just get on with it and allow it. Stop with the silly politics as it only harms Gamers.

So maybe Microsoft should allow Sony to handle the online crossplay side and have Nintendo and Xbox users to sign up for PSN.



No. Stay separate, Sony! I do not trust Phil Spencer as I have spoke on in a previous thread! He seems to want to merge all gaming together. Xbox and PC, then Switch, then PlayStation. After everybody is chumy, Microsoft may go in for the kill with a merger or takeover.

Imagine the potential bland gaming landscape with MS in control, for those of us that like single player, story driven games. MS caters to the online gamer (which is fine for many) and does not focus on single player. They have pushed for online multiplayer since the original Xbox. Single player is what I like. I find the best experiences alone with a deep story driven, single player game. I have heard about all the younger and immature gamers on Xbox live being rude, racist, etc. Not saying all younger gamers on Xbox are like that, though. But Xbox live has had a bad reputation for that. Also, I think this may pose security risks with all of these online companies linked together. 



if i was Sony i would do the same, anyone who at this point doesn't get it never will.



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As long as MS doesn't require XBL there is a possibility, but then Sony will have to also give up on the protection of market they have by blocking it.



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