Ya, it's threads like these which made me stop making predictions lol. If you're right, no one cares. If you're wrong, then people will bring up how wrong you are for months and months. Once I made a bad prediction in a middle of a thread, and something like 10 months later some random person called me out and told me how much of an idiot I was....like seriously?

Of all things in the world to underestimate how on Earth could Nintendo possibly be one of them?

Funny all the passes being handed out and qualifications people are making for these terrible predictions.

OP, there needs to be more up there. I'm sure there can be.

Uh, nope. I honestly didn't see them. Or maybe I did see some, but not enough to remember seeing any. Maybe I've just learned to filter the ridiculous stuff without paying attention. It seems you do have a point about analyst numbers though. Personally I don't consider it a problem since short-term success and long-term success are two difference things (that probably correlate somewhat) and Switch's long-term success is still unproven, but yeah, it seems they are actually pretty low for the first year. Still, as short-term predictions, I don't think they're that unreasonable. Obviously they're incorrect, but like I've said, there was also a lot of negativity regarding Switch (with the price being a major point).

I thought it was ok. The price was within what some expected and the release date was sooner than anyone expected. The overall online features outside of the online gaming itself are still in question as Nintendo has only begun releasing the app but hasn't mentioned the potential virtual console or deals that can be made once paid and all. We'll just have to wait and see. Still playing online is pretty fun with Splatoon 2 and ARMS The joy cons themselves have potential if utilized. Switch being region free was news. The amount of options of playing was interesting due to the hybrid concept. The trailers ranged from ok to great. While I'll admit ARMS didn't necessarily have a great first impression, I'm glad it showed it was more than flinging punches as previews, later trailers, and reviews showed it was more than Wii Boxing 2. 1-2 Switch was weird but not really terrible and I've seen worse trailers. It sucks FE Warriors was only a teaser at the time. Xenoblade 2 was great. Odyssey was amazing. Zelda was awe inspiring. I think what people didn't like were the news after the presentation such as the online features once paid (or that it was paid at all), the prices for the controllers and other accessories, and the few launch day titles (which was like about 15 if you include the Japan only titles).

Agree, but Switch price isn't high, isnt exactly most affordable but isn't exactly expensive, sales proves that. Those analyst form OP failed miserable, so they definitely ignored or weren't aware of the positives of Switch. For the record, all other analysts are far more positive about Switch. How I didnt know that price isnt to high!? Easy, Switch is real handheld and real home console in one, offers local multiplayer on the go, and offers two controllers for local multiplayer out of box, $299 inst too much for such a device, and like I wrote, sales proves that.

I myself didnt saw one single bigger negativity about Switch that could effect sales, everything was good and actually totally opposite to Wii U, Switch is so much similar to Wii, great concept, great launch games, and great branding and marketing, only difference is that Wii had very affordable price point, but luckily Switch doesn't have high price point either.

Also, don't lump faux-Nintendo fans in with the real deal. Anyone who claims to be a Nintendo fan and says something like "Gamecube was the best Nintendo console ever" or "Nintendo hasn't been good since Gamecube" or "Why can't Nintendo make something like Gamecube again" are more or less confused Playstation fans who think they're Nintendo fans. Essentially what they want is a gimped Playstation 4 in the same way the Gamecube was a gimped PS2 (childish design, weird controller which didn't support certain game genres, micro-dvds instead of the real deal; it was a PS2 Jr.), rather than a console that is uniquely Nintendo, and vastly different from the competition, particularly the NES, Gameboy, DS, Wii, and Switch.

In other words, those who were excited for the Switch, that's us, the Nintendo fans; the ones who love Nintendo and they're philosophy. Those who were disappointed because it wasn't a gimped PS4 clone, they're Playstation fans who want a playstation-like console, they like Sony's philosophy, hate Nintendo's philosophy - but ironically dislike the Sony label and love the Nintendo label. They're shallow in that regards.

At this point, it seems we're not even on the same page, so it's best if we leave it here.